Scrivener 3.1 is going to be incredible!

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Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:41 am Post

I've been using the Scrivener 3.0.9 beta for the past few days and I've been blown away by how many additions and improvements have been added to a free update. I'm amazed and humbled by Keith's dedication to making truly first-class software.

The changelog is extensive, so I thought I'd dig through and single out some favourite changes:

  • Widow and orphan control. This is a huge one (as evidenced by how many related entries in the changelog).
  • Compiling scripts to PDF keeps elements with their appropriate siblings. This really has made a huge difference for me. Previously, although you could write a script in Scrivener, you really needed an additional app to actually get it out to someone. (And despite what some may think, FDX is not a way to exchange screenplays!) Compiling to Fountain then to PDF was okay, but it meant that any rich text additions would be stripped out, and one of Scrivener's biggest strengths in my view is that it is a native RTF editor. And more often now screenplays are making use of rich text (e.g. Nightcrawler, Deeper, Arrival, etc.). Being able to write a script in Scrivener, and compile it as WYSIWYG really is a game-changer.
  • Compiling scripts to PDF avoids breaking sentences across pages. This is awesome. There's nothing worse than someone doing a reading of a script and pausing mid-sentence to turn the page.
  • (MORE) & (CONT’D) for dialogue split across pages. Again, very important in the paper-based world of performance. You don't want an actor learning half a line because they were missing the previous page!
  • Widow and orphan control in page view! When I first heard widow and orphan control was coming in 3.1 I expected it to be only calculated at compile time — having this in page view struck me as "nice to have but inessential". In script mode especially it's fantastic to see where your page breaks are likely to occur.
  • Ability to output script dual dialogue to PDF. I've only recently realised the benefits of dual dialogue (thanks to reading Kenneth Lonergan screenplays), so the ability to output dual dialogue is very welcome.
  • Ability to change a document’s created date. This took me a while to figure out as the created date field does not look clickable — you need to right-click the created date and select Change Date from the dropdown menu.
  • Option for images in Corkboard to use regular index card proportions. I saw this request in the forum and was a little disheartened when it seemed to be shot down, so it was a very pleasant surprise to see the option. Now my corkboards with images and index cards look much nicer.
  • Ability to centre the Quick Search bar. It's a curious thing about macOS's toolbar customisation that you can "balance" a toolbar so that something appears in the centre, but few apps actually have the options to centre toolbar elements.
  • A new cleaner/sleeker look for the Composition Mode footer.
  • Focus to line / sentence / paragraph in Composition Mode. Another cool little addition — some apps make this one of their main selling points, but with Scrivener it's just thrown in as a bonus!

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Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:07 am Post

Agreed. Dark Theme alone already makes a difference :D

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Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:44 pm Post

I already wetted myself!

Bring it on, Keith!!

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Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:21 pm Post

PWR wrote:
  • Focus to line / sentence / paragraph in Composition Mode. Another cool little addition — some apps make this one of their main selling points, but with Scrivener it's just thrown in as a bonus!

This is my favourite feature, so far. I also like that when you scroll in this mode, the whole text brightens until you start typing again.
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:27 pm Post

Ooh, I can't wait!!! Tell us, what other cool things are in there???
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:50 pm Post

subgeniuszero wrote:Ooh, I can't wait!!! Tell us, what other cool things are in there???


He who seeks finds: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=276683#p276683

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Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:08 am Post

Thanks! :-) Downloading now!
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:03 pm Post

I've checked the changelog for the 3.0.9 beta and I don't see the compile changes to ePub that would fix the output so it validates:
ePubs (3 )don't validate with this error:
• Undeclared prefix: 'ibooks'. (ERROR)

Right now I have to edit the output files manually.

I thought this would be addressed. (and Maybe I missed it)
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:52 am Post

This simple menu entry:

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...is so elegantly efficient (and I suspect took so much work to achieve), and offers a flexibility no other app I've seen for Mojave offer so far. This really sums up the attention to detail that is found throughout Scrivener's design. :love:

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Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:49 am Post

It would be even better if I could record Macros on it like Microsoft Word. I can't change the keyboard shortcuts in Scrivener for Windows, nor can I record a Macro. I have to repeatedly use long pharma names and it would help if I could use keyboard shortcuts for them in Windows.

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Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:49 am Post

Among the countless improvements of an already excellent application this new version brings us, is the fact that keyboard shortcuts are now shown in the styles panel. Would it be an idea to show them also in the format bar?
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:42 am Post

kathy2trips wrote:It would be even better if I could record Macros on it like Microsoft Word. I can't change the keyboard shortcuts in Scrivener for Windows, nor can I record a Macro. I have to repeatedly use long pharma names and it would help if I could use keyboard shortcuts for them in Windows.


Have a look at the Auto-Complete feature: it may help.

Basically, once you've added a word to the auto-completion list and you type the first couple of letters of that word, then a popup appears and you can accept it with tab or enter. If there's more than one match, you can use the arrow keys to select, or carry on typing till it's unique.

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There are a few more details in this post: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/web/forum/viewtopic.php?p=277311#p277311

HTH.

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Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:25 pm Post

I go through ups and downs with Scrivener. And have been very frustrated with version 3 on multiple occasions, but I am LOVING this update.

THANK YOU TO THE GODS OF SCRIVENER.

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Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:07 am Post

Having just completed the first draft of my first playscript in Scrivener this month, these changes arrive just in time! When printing out the draft to show our newly hired director, I spent probably half an hour exterminating widows and orphans (writers are so cruel....) and throwing in extra blank lines and page breaks after exporting to Pages for printing. I was dreading having to repeat the process this week when I rewrite and move things around for the table reading script. I’m so glad this update will make that unnecessary! Dark Mode will help too. Much appreciated!

The biggest obstacle for scriptwriting in Scrivener for me now is the lack of support for collaboration, since this one is co-authored. I know some other Scriveners out there have worked around this limitation by syncing to an external folder so that both writers can at least see each other’s work in progress, but what we want is to be able to work on a single document separately. At the moment, we’re using Google Docs, which messes up the formatting that Scrivener scriptwriting mode so carefully implements, so I wind up going back into Scrivener to make edits, then re-exporting to Docs. Suggestions welcome.

I know collaboration has been discussed on these forums thoroughly, so I don’t want to re-tread old ground. Thanks again for the update — I’m going to use several of these additions every week.

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Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:46 am Post

brett wrote:The biggest obstacle for scriptwriting in Scrivener for me now is the lack of support for collaboration


Personally, I think the desire for Google Docs style collaboration is a red herring.

My suggestion would be to keep your locus of collaboration on the PDF, e.g. you and your collaborator discuss changes to a scene, you make changes to the scene (possibly using Scrivener's revision mode), export the scene to PDF, then return to step one.

Since some technology makes it possible to see a collaborator's writing the very instant it is typed, I think some writers believe that they need this technology in order to write collaboratively. But if you take a step back from this idea you may find it is not only unnecessary, but better without it.