Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:10 pm Post
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:17 am Post
kadavy wrote:I would force the user to check a series of boxes the first five times they synced with iOS
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:37 am Post
Cirrocumulus wrote:I believe sync could be improved, though, that's all.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:09 am Post
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:39 am Post
devinganger wrote:you may have some catch-up research to do
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:04 am Post
Cirrocumulus wrote:I don't *have* to do research in order to solve a software issue. I can only point to it when it becomes difficult to ignore.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:32 am Post
lunk wrote:The problem, which you don't seem to understand, is that there are always three different computers involved in Scrivener's syncing, and three different softwares, of which L&L only control two, and each one of them (computer/software) only knows about itself. The individual computer/software has no knowledge about the others, or what the user perhaps wants the three of them to do together.
lunk wrote:You don't risk getting physically hurt or killed by losing some piece of text you've written.
lunk wrote:The simplest way to avoid the risk of having syncing problems, if the risk really scares you, is not to sync. Don't work on the project from several devices!
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:08 am Post
Cirrocumulus wrote:As I wrote earlier, I am syncing both DevonThink on macOS and DevonThink To Go (iOS) through a third computer, a custom-configured WebDAV server running on an Ubuntu-formatted old iMac. The syncing is being done in every direction flawlessly, with open documents everywhere. I am pretty positive the Ubuntu machine doesn't know a lot about either DevonThink, macOS or iOS. It doesn't even know it's running on a Mac.
I know. This is why it's an analogy.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:16 am Post
Cirrocumulus wrote:I respectfully suggest you direct your first question at the developers of the various software packages I know of — I'm sure there are many more — which handle sync conflicts gracefully. They would probably know a lot more about this than I do.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:35 am Post
Kinsey wrote:Were you on the forums when they launched the sync service? Lots of frustrated users registering complaints at the time, due to what seems to have been a very complicated system involving sync stores, etc.
Kinsey wrote:I just have it set up to close and back-up after a period of inactivity on my Macbook, so that if I ever open the iOS version, I'm not generating potential conflicts. Would that work for you?
devinganger wrote:It's a bit presumptuous for ANY of us (since none of us have access to the code) to just snap out fingers and say, "Fix it."
devinganger wrote:chances are good it any sync-related losses are due to user error of some sort.
devinganger wrote:One of the whole design concepts behind Scrivener is that if something breaks, you can always go into the package and find the RTF files with your data in them without having to have fancy tools or special knowledge of the file format. You can't do that with DevonThink or any other database, for that matter.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:53 pm Post
Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:09 pm Post
Cirrocumulus wrote:As to @kewms' comment on iCloud: I don't think anyone on this thread has said that iCloud was a wonderful and hassle-free solution, but I may be wrong. EDIT: BTW — and please don't consider this as support for iCloud — it seems that both articles mention clearly that the issues involved are related to beta releases. The second article even has a subheading which says "Folks don’t understand beta".
Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 pm Post
Cirrocumulus wrote:This is the point I'm trying to make for the last four posts here: sync-related losses should *never* be the result of user error. Scrivener itself boasts — and rightly so — that you never need to save anything while you work. Data should be immune to user error, unless the user actively decides to wipe it. This is a general idea and is not limited to Scrivener. Software should keep the data intact no matter what incident occurs: power outage, network issues, alien invasion, a general election, whatever. The only loss of data should occur when a user presses Backspace, deletes a file or empties the Trash.
Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:08 am Post
If you had read the links, you would know that people are experiencing unrecoverable data loss on devices that *aren't* running the beta, but are simply sharing an iCloud location with a device that is.
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:02 am Post
Rayz wrote:So what he said is correct: the issue is related to the beta release
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