Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:14 pm Post
Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:40 pm Post
Bridger wrote:Yesterday I tried to use my Scrivener, 3.0 beta and guess what, it would not open. My version stopped working on Sep 30, and on Oct 1 it was dead. Now I was forced to go to the website, try to find the download button for beta, which would not tell me if it was version 3 or 1.9. Then I had to hunt through the forums, found the download message, could not remember if the one I had installed was 32 or 64 bit. Didn't want to install the wrong one and end up with two copies cluttering my HD.
By this time I had forgotten what I wanted to add to my novel.
Finally I hunted in my win 10 and found where I could manually change the date for the system, then my existing Scrivener opened and I could update from there. All in all a total waste of time.
Why are these deadlines so heavily enforced? Do you really want to make your users get all frustrated? I am a paid user, I paid for this new version. Either limit the betas to only paid users, or make it available to everyone and only cut off the use once you have the final product,
Seriously if I have to go through this BS again , I am out of Scrivener for good.
This is just such a mickey mousey system, if you want to use your users as beta testers, at least in return make things a bit easier for them. I would be willing to pay another $100 for the software,if it would just get finished and work properly with all the features that the Mac version has. And before all you holier than thou flamers start on me, think about this. If you were a carpenter , you would go into Home Depot and buy the best tools you could, because you use them every day. That adds up to hundreds if not thousands of dollars, but it its what you need to make a living. Same with Scrivener, if you are using it to make a living, a $100 bucks is not unreasonable for a good, production ready, dependable piece of software, is it?
Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:42 pm Post
Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:01 pm Post
Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:19 pm Post
Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:23 pm Post
martienne wrote:I agree with OP - that's over the top and I work in software development.
Guess what - pirates will always pirate and all Scrivener versions up until now have been cracked. I personally want to support the developers, so I pay up, In return I don't want to be treated with suspicion and patronised. Excessive licensing enforcement or other mucking around with expiry date etc will just annoy regular paid up non-technical users. There are some fantastic examples of software where the cracked versions are considerably more user friendly than the paid up versions, due to licensing paranoia. It's not the end of the world if some user is using an old Beta a bit longer than intended.
With that said - Literature and Latte is not a big software house, every license counts and people who use this type of software must understand that the software house needs to be paid what they are due, in order to be able to continue.
I totally understand the frustration of OP who might have had limited time to write that day and ended up spending all of it messing around with an enforced, unnecessary update. If this had happened to me, I could well have written a similar post.
Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:31 pm Post
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:18 am Post
Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:16 pm Post
cigoLogic wrote:Astaff wrote:Charging more would do nothing to speed up development, and often the case, neither does throwing more developers at a problem.
Obviously not true. If it was true, then Microsoft would have only one developer employed.
Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:31 pm Post
cigoLogic wrote:Astaff wrote:Charging more would do nothing to speed up development, and often the case, neither does throwing more developers at a problem.
Obviously not true. If it was true, then Microsoft would have only one developer employed.
Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:41 pm Post
Bridger wrote:Yesterday I tried to use my Scrivener, 3.0 beta and guess what, it would not open. My version stopped working on Sep 30, and on Oct 1 it was dead. Now I was forced to go to the website, try to find the download button for beta, which would not tell me if it was version 3 or 1.9. Then I had to hunt through the forums, found the download message, could not remember if the one I had installed was 32 or 64 bit. Didn't want to install the wrong one and end up with two copies cluttering my HD.
By this time I had forgotten what I wanted to add to my novel.
Finally I hunted in my win 10 and found where I could manually change the date for the system, then my existing Scrivener opened and I could update from there. All in all a total waste of time.
Why are these deadlines so heavily enforced? Do you really want to make your users get all frustrated? I am a paid user, I paid for this new version. Either limit the betas to only paid users, or make it available to everyone and only cut off the use once you have the final product,
Seriously if I have to go through this BS again , I am out of Scrivener for good.
This is just such a mickey mousey system, if you want to use your users as beta testers, at least in return make things a bit easier for them. I would be willing to pay another $100 for the software,if it would just get finished and work properly with all the features that the Mac version has. And before all you holier than thou flamers start on me, think about this. If you were a carpenter , you would go into Home Depot and buy the best tools you could, because you use them every day. That adds up to hundreds if not thousands of dollars, but it its what you need to make a living. Same with Scrivener, if you are using it to make a living, a $100 bucks is not unreasonable for a good, production ready, dependable piece of software, is it?
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