[LH4141] Text returns to bold on opening file

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Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:35 am Post

Opening a file (since Beta 14) results in all the story text and some research docs rendered in Bold style.

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tiho_d
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:18 pm Post

Can you please upload a small project with a document inside and the steps that will help us reproduce the problem.

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Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:49 pm Post

I have a similar problem (I'll see if I can produce a sample file that reproducibly does this). A few things that I've noticed concerning this topic:

  • In documents with this problem, some (most) documents seem to randomly (?) turn bold on loading the file. This might be related to the font set in the document.
  • In documents with this problem, the text cursor will always be set to bold, even if the surrounding text is not bold.Image
    (This is what the document would look like if the text actually was bold:)Image
  • One one of the affected computers, the problem extends to the formatting dialog:Image

A possible cause I've found is that all affected computers were used to work on a Scrivener file containing the Vollkorn font: normally, in the font style selection dialogue, fonts list "Standard" first, followed by "Bold", "Bold Italic" etc.; the developers of Vollkorn seem to not have taken care of this, hence "Bold" is at the very top of the selection menu. It seems to me that Scrivener has automatically selected the "Bold" style due to it being "on top" and therefore decided to make everything bold -- something that could also happen with other fonts that have the same issue. However, it seems incredibly difficult to tell the program to stop doing this, at least I haven't found a way to consistently do this, even when changing to a different font.

I hope this can at least help pinpoint the problem!

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Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:14 pm Post

I am having this same issue. I had no problems in Scrivener one, but in the Beta everything is BOLD no matter what I do. I'm using a Baskerville font. Same as I did in Scrivener 1.
If I highlight and remove the BOLD it is there again the next time I open the document. It's very frustrating. Is there a fix for this yet?

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Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:46 pm Post

Yeah, I'm seeing this too, but only with certain fonts. Most fonts--and I've tested a couple dozen--work as expected.

I'll upload a sample project when I get a moment.

Just FYI, when I noticed this oddness with bolding on certain fonts, I also noticed another difference between how Scriv 1 and Beta Scriv handle font styles. Posted on it here: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58512

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Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:47 pm Post

Attached is a sample project that uses a font exhibiting the problem.

The font is the lovely Gabriel Black Ribbon, which was my favorite typewriter font for drafting until I began using the Beta. :(

I've had to move to another font while using the beta, because text using Gabriel Black Ribbon will keep being bolded every time I open the project, even though I unbold it before I close the project.

You can download the font directly from the foundry for free, here: http://www.fontgrube.de/en/gabriele.htm, although the download URL doesn't currently seem to be working at this moment.

You can also download the font from 1001fonts here: https://www.1001fonts.com/gabriele-font.html#styles

Please let me know if there's any other info I can provide.

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Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:48 pm Post

I checked nearly 50 fonts, and these 8 below, from 4 different font families, are the only ones that exhibit the bolding problem. I've included a download location, in case that helps your testing.

https://quoteunquoteapps.com/courierprime/
COURIER PRIME MEDIUM

https://www.1001fonts.com/gabriele-font.html#styles
Gabriel Light Ribbon FG
Gabriel Dark Ribbon FG
Gabriel Black Ribbon FG

https://github.com/IBM/plex/releases/
IBM PLEX MONO Medium
IBM PLEX MONO SemiBold
IBM PLEX MONO Text

https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/MonospaceTypewriter
MONOSPACE TYPEWRITER

Of course, folks upthread have supplied other fonts that also exhibit the problem.


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Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:13 am Post

Same with Typewriter Scribbled font (created by Manfred Klein)
https://fontmeme.com/fonts/typewriter-scribbled-font/

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tiho_d
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Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:10 am Post

Sorry guys, this fix did not make it in the Beta 28 release, but will be available in the next update.

Just want to point out that some of the fonts do not provide multiple font weights. For example "TypewriterScribbled" has only a font weight of 57, which is called "Medium", which is neither Normal, nor Bold. Have in mind that the RTF spec does NOT allow specifying font weight explicitly, but only bold/non-bold font style. In this case the font definition provides only one font weight. Scrivener is trying to find the best font weight match for bold/non-bold cases out of only one available font weight for this font, which is obviously asking for troubles.

Most of the fonts given as examples above have similar issues with only limited or non-standard font weights defined. Still Scrivener will handle these cases much more gracefully in the next update.

Thanks for your help with this issue, guys!

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Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:23 am Post

I filed a similar problem some time ago -that text set in italics (by ctrl+I) returns in the "weight" italics, and still itaicized (so it tilts a lot...). I use Book Antiqua. Don't know if that is related, or whether it has been adressed?

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