Big dumb question

You can manually copy scriv projects to/from iOS Scriv via iTunes.

–gr

P.s. Any manual way of doing this is going to be much less convenient and prone to user error than doing it via dropbox – which in my experience works flawlessly with Scriv. Worth considering the depth and veracity of your motivation for not going that way.

Thanks Kinsey. Much appreciated. I was hoping for something a little less clunky than an iTunes transfer (like being able to airdrop, or being able to copy files back and fourth from my iCloud), but thanks for detailing the steps,

I’m a little old fashioned about cloud syncing (I prefer uploading, rather than mirroring. Especially for backups) and I’m fearful of file corruption, or some other error, losing everything everywhere at the same time. Even losing a days writing due to a sync error can be dispiriting.

I have a Macbook Air, so iPad use is not essential for portability. I might put a pin in it for now and use Google Docs (or even Apple Notes) for writing on iPad/iPhone. I can always copy and paste the text to my Scrivener file when I get home.

Thanks for your help guys.

There are other methods, as referenced in these posts.

[url]https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/dropbox-introduces-three-device-limit-on-free-accounts/44803/10]

[url]https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/dropbox-introduces-three-device-limit-on-free-accounts/44803/22]

Although it does involve the cloud, my guess is you’ll probably still consider it “clunky”, as they involve multiple steps.

Let us know if it works for you.

Best,
Jim

P.S. I admire your trepidation about syncing. Many embark on it too lightly and wind up here, posting about project corruption.

Just chiming in to say Airdrop works fine (once I convince my devices to actually see each other again :laughing: ) .

Please be aware that having multiple versions of a project is an extremely common cause of “missing” work, when an older version is inadvertently opened rather than the newer version.

Especially if you are using any form of manual transfer between devices, please be VERY careful to use a naming convention that makes it clear which version is which.

Katherine

Thanks Jim. I guess I just need to try a few things out and see how it goes. I don’t mind a few steps.

That’s good to know Sarsen. Thanks.

Agreed. I tend to add dates to filenames when I backup or transfer things (using an Automator script).

The iOS version is only twenty quid, so I’m going to buy it and give it a go.
Thanks for all your advice people.

I think you’ll enjoy it. I certainly do. I currently do perhaps 80% of my writing in iOS Scriv, and the rest in the Win version. Partially because generally there’s less distractions lurking for me on my iPad vs. my PC, but also because I just like the feel of writing in iOS Scriv. Keith did a great job, it’s a really nice environment for creativity.

Best,
Jim

He has indeed, Jim. I have only been playing around with it for about half an hour and it’s already my favourite iOS writing app (also, Airdrop in conjunction with the Files app works great for me).

Good stuff.

On the desktop/laptop side of things, be sure to take advantage of File->Back Up->Back Up To… It has the option to add the current date and time to the filename automatically, in a format that sorts properly.

That’s a nice feature.

If I use ‘Back Up To…’ to save a backup to a different location than the one I have set for automated backups, does the project still continue to do automatic back ups in the old location?

Yes.

It’s also possible to include the date in the filename for automatic backups. The setting is in the Scrivener → Preferences → Backups pane.

Katherine

Yes. The Back Up To… is kind of the inversion of File->Save As. You end up with a copy, but your Scrivener window stays open to the “original”… which may or may not be an advantage for this use-case. But whatever you do with Back Up To… has no effect on your automatic backups settings.

Brilliant. Thanks, Katherine.

I can see me using this feature all the time from now on. Thanks for suggesting it. Very useful.

I’ve just discovered that Scrivener for iOS has its own ‘Back Up To…’ equivalent using the project share menu (via the Edit button or a Long Press).

This way I can save archives into iCloud with both the desktop and iOS versions (opening them on iOS using an extractor I made with the Shortcuts app), all zipped and dated and everything, so I know which is most recent.

It’s so versatile, I can even save backups to Apple Notes if I want to. Amazing!

Now I’ve connected a Bluetooth keyboard, I can see how It could easily replace a laptop. I love it.

Yes, I create a zipped backup from iOS Scriv after every writing session, just like I do with the desktop version.

Be sure to go through the iOS Scriv Tutorial, as there are some handy features that weren’t obvious, at least to me.

Two I can think of:

Quick Reference - let’s you split screen and work on two documents, as with Desktop version. Settings (Gear) > Sidebar > Expanded/Compact will increase or decrease the split. Swipe documents in the bindeer left > More > Quick Reference to display them. Tap the title in the Binder to display the Quick Reference documents (Scrivener remembers them).

Reveal in Binder - Tap the document title to reveal its location in the binder.

Best,
JIm

Thanks for the tips, Jim. Handy stuff. I’m going to go through the tutorial this Sunday and have some fun.

After that, I’m going to stop procrastinating and actually get some writing done…

…Honest

Pete, one last thing, then you can go write. :smiley:

Since you’re using an external keyboard, there’s keyboard shortcuts. See the iOS knowledgebase for the list. Also, hold down Command for onscreen list.

And see the knowledgebase article on fonts, that might save you some confusion.

https://scrivener.tenderapp.com/help/kb/ios

Best,
Jim

I discovered this one by accident, much to my delight.

I’m all about the Times New Roman, so no worries.

Thanks again, Jim.

I’ve been meaning to try Apple’s Shortcuts app. Your post nudged me to finally do so; thank you :slight_smile:.

This adds another effective method for those who prefer to transfer projects using ZIP files rather than sync them. The final panel I get before the project is sent to Scrivener’s folder which already holds a version of the project:
IMG_0214.jpg
If one chooses Keep Both, the project name is appended sequentially. For this test, I extracted an archive stored in Sync app cloud service using Shortcuts app.

Apple support Shortcuts guide:
support.apple.com/guide/shortcuts/welcome/ios

An image laden tutorial on how to create and extract archives using Shortcuts app:
igeeksblog.com/how-to-zip-u … shortcuts/

Can this be done in IOS?

Brilliant. Thanks, Katherine.