[Suggestion] Dark Mode

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Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:44 am Post

Hello,

I really love the new design, but I would like to ask for a feature improvement: dark mode. Personally, after years of struggling with inflammation in my eyes, I discovered it was because of too much white in my PC screen. Since switching to a modified "dark mode" (background:#282828, text: 5C8599) [not a fan of white text on black background, because it burns my eyes still] in any application that allowed me to. Scrivener allows for a lot of configuration of the appearance, but doesn't allow me to change the color of all windows and text to match a real "dark mode." It would be great if you either created a "dark mode" feature that changes the overall look of the app (and then allows me to set the specific of the main windows) or if you implemented the present appearance setting in order to allow me to change "every" window background and "every" text color.

Thank you,

Lapo

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tomofnz
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:19 am Post

i second that. Also it would be good to be able to hide seldom used menu bars.

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Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:49 pm Post

This is not an unreasonable request - Scrivener for iPad already has a dark mode!

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Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:03 pm Post

I agree it would be great to have a "Dark" mode. It would be better to allow the user to set the colors for this mode. For now I use black background and white text. But some may not want white text, they might want blue. Best for the user to decide this. But, have a menu choice and a tool bar button to turn this on/off would be excellent!

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Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:36 am Post

I would love this. Right now I have a bastardized version that I have cobbled together that could really use some improvement. Every application should have a Dark Mode, and Scrivener is no different.

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Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:56 am Post

A Dark Mode would be great.

By the way, do you know about f.lux? It's amazing to avoid eye strain et al.
https://justgetflux.com/

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Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:19 am Post

RLeal wrote:A Dark Mode would be great.

By the way, do you know about f.lux? It's amazing to avoid eye strain et al.
https://justgetflux.com/


Windows 10 has a f.lux-type feature built in; it's called Night Light. You can toggle it in the Action Center. Though I suppose that's a moot point for anyone still using Windows 7... That being said, a Dark Mode in Scrivener/the ability to change UI colors would be very much appreciated!

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Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:47 am Post

The three recent posts by KB on this page may be helpful in this discussion (best to read the one towards the top of the page first in order to make sense of the second and third).
'Listen, some quiet night, when you've shirked your work that day. Do you hear
that distant, almost inaudible clicking sound? That's one of your
competitors, working away in the night in
Paris or London or Erie, PA.'

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Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:33 pm Post

Just to add another experience point here.

I've had severe Type 2 Diabetes which though entirely arrested, leaves me with some eye problems (and memory of when they were worse).

- Flux is a great thing, and improved in the latest version
- A night/dark mode really needs to hit all the areas of the screen, or you still get difficulties
- I'd also support the idea of allowing greyscale, even color choice for what the 'dark' and 'white' presentations are, as these can also be very helpful.

It's hard to describe the experience, but it's one you don't want, to 'overload' eyes that come to lack any reserves to deal with glare or the kinds of variable resolution problems that come with severe enough retinopathy. And the figures keep going up for diabetes, which you don't have to have eating faults to incur.

A great thing if Scrivener can help out...as I type on my Flux-night-reconstituted screen. Medicine is good; being able to set up screens as you need them is right in there with it, particularly as sight varies over a day and between days.

Many thanks.
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Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:13 pm Post

Second that

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Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:53 pm Post

I use Flux and its not anywhere close to the same thing as having a "Dark/Night" mode. Besides, my so called dark-mode is setup all the time because it is easier on the eyes. Unfortunately, we can't change the bookmark panel "Inspector" color or associated backgrounds. Although we can change the editor background (mine is black), we can't change its panel color when minimizing or hiding the Inspector.

Why is any of this important? Because white reflects the most blue light back to the retina and overtime can damage it. This is why choosing your own colors is most helpful since everyone has different sensitivity to blue light. So again, my suggestion is to have a dark mode with the user selecting the colors of the three panels, fonts, and backgrounds. Ability to turn it on/off via menu/ button on the bar. Users will appreciate this feature.

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Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:31 am Post

I'll put my vote in for dark mode as well. It's my default mode in the iOS app, and in every app that will allow it (and I use the HackerVision extension in Chrome to give dark mode to most web pages). F.lux is a big help, but not quite enough.

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Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:27 pm Post

I think this would be a killer feature for desktop. I have fallen in love with dark interfaces when it comes to creative work. (Part of it is doing design and video in a darker or shady environment. Part of it has become making the actual canvas the center of contrast dominance, which helps focus attention.

Here are two scope-narrowing ideas:


1/ Have preset themes—light and dark to start with, dark-gray and light-gray added if/when feasible.

2/ Have the settings affect only the app chrome. (The workspace settings for binder colors, etc.seem quite amply covered in the app settings).

I'm not an OSX coder, so I don't know how difficult it is to stray away from what Apple devtools provides for apps. And I'm 18 years away from the Windows (NT) world.

I offer as an example implementation what Adobe has done for InDesign. I don't hold Adobe up as paragons of app development, but I have to say I have fallen in love with apps that offer this feature.

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Also, here's what Serif Labs has implemented in Affinity Photo.

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I love Scrivener already. It's the bee's knees! This feature would make it, I don't know, the bee's well-turned ankles as well.

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Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:36 pm Post

llis wrote:I think this would be a killer feature for desktop. <snip>
I love Scrivener already. It's the bee's knees! This feature would make it, I don't know, the bee's well-turned ankles as well.

But do read what KB, the sole developer for Scrivener for MacOS and iOS says on the subject:
Hugh wrote:The three recent posts by KB on this page may be helpful in this discussion (best to read the one towards the top of the page first in order to make sense of the second and third).

What Adobe can throw at the problem in terms of staff or money—or probably Serif for that matter—is different, and as they are both graphic software companies, producing the necessary graphic elements is part of their core business. Things are very different for KB and Literature & Latte.

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Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:04 am Post

I'd vote for a dark mode as well. I use one whenever possible.