Scrivener for Android?

[cdelstad]

All -
Is there any design or development started for Scrivener for Android? Are there any tentative time lines or even a year we hope to release? I see from a post by Lee that Windows 8 and Android are important platforms and that to look for a release in 2012-2013. Is that for Android or just Windows 8 (since we already have a windows version)?
Thanks in advance,
-Chad

[KB]

No work has started on an Android version at this stage, and there is no tentative timeline for a release, or even any speculation about thinking about a tentative timeline for any putative release.

The iOS version is in the planning and early development stages at the moment. If an Android version goes ahead - and we hope that it will - then it will follow the iOS version, and will be based on the plans that we are putting together for that. So we can't start thinking about the Android version until we've finished designing our general touch interface and have something on the iOS platform to get into our Windows/Android developers' hands - which is a few months off in itself.

Thanks for your interest!

All the best,
Keith

[cdelstad]

Thank you kindly for the quick reply and info.

[Philipp]

+1 for the Android plans.

What would be very nice and handy beforehand is some sort of a pure scrivener reader.
I have my projects on dropbox and I'm really sad, that I cannot even read my stuff without converting my project first.

[DThor]

New Windows Scrivener customer here - I'm loving it so far and would buy an android app in a heartbeat. I'll scan over on the Mac side and see what you're planning since that will be the blueprint. Certainly number one with a bullet would be the ability to peruse online projects and have some editing capability. I'm imagining having the muse hit you when mobile and whipping off a few hundred words.

Cheers,

DT

[cdelstad]

Any update on Scrivener for Android and iOS? I read you recently brought on an iOS developer to help work on this. Which is awesome, but unfortunate for the reasons. I have immediate family issues as well so I know she's doing the right thing.
Have you folks thought about doing a Kickstarter to raise the capital to bring in staff or hire a company to get it out the door? I would certainly back enough for my own copy on Android, possibly more depending on the structure of 'bonuses'.
Thanks again,
-Chad

[KB]

We have no need of a Kickstarter campaign - the issue isn't funds so much as doing things right. There is no point starting an Android version while we are still working on the iOS version. The iOS version is our testbed for getting the mobile design right. Once that is done right and out the door, we can start on the Android version.

All the best,
Keith

[cdelstad]

Any screenshots for iOS you can tantalize us with?
Thank you kindly,
-Chad

[Arphaxad]

Adding a vote for an Android version of Scrivener. I am loving the Windows version, can't wait for it to catch up to the Mac version, and would buy the Android version day one.

Of course I will be sad when I see the iOS version released first, but I guess someone has to be the test monkeys

[dbrig]

Another vote for Android.

I had been doing the bulk of my writing on a Kindle Fire (using a Word emulator and Dropbox). Decided to try Scrivener (Windows) and love it . . . but now I'm bound to my desktop PC for everything.

[lonehorseend]

Another vote, beg, plea, whatever you want to call it!

[thorjansen]

Another vote for an android version here. As tablets surpass laptops, and some can even use Bluetooth keyboards, it appears to me at least that android is a necessary platform for Scrivener, just as much as iOS is.

[stupidusATmailDOTcom]

I don't personally appreciate Keith's strategy at all.

I prefer to do my heavy editing on my Macbook's Scrivener and could just do with a light Android (and WP) app that would have simple split view (enabling adding and arranging text files in the same fashion as in the desktop version) which would go full screen when editing text. That's it.

I must not be the only one who prefers working such a way. After all we paid to have Scrivener because Word is not for us. Word is for folks who don't know any better (or simply don't care), or who can't use anything else in their line of work.

We on the other hand _want_ to write, take writing _seriously_, and thus just _want_ to streamline our workflow so that writing can be _as fluent process as possible_ when ever the inspiration should strike with what ever we happen to have at hand then.

For most people today that item is their phone. And it's now been close to 20 months with nothing to show. People are running out of patience and I for one can hardly blame them.

So, I'm sorry to be the first one to say this out loud but the chosen strategy isn't exactly working (for us at least - your primary customers?).

It truthfully seems like you guys could in fact need some help, and for that a Kickstarter campaign could in all honesty work wonders - and fast, too! Or otherwise you really ought to consider revising your strategy when it comes to mobile apps.

The world is changing fast around us and sticking to fantasies about delivering perfect products could prove to be a disastrous path indeed.

To cap, why make everybody wait forever for stuff that most folks will likely never even find a real use for?

[Fluff]

I don't personally appreciate Keith's strategy at all.
Nā mākbuk yokka skrīvanīr nā bhārī savaraṇaku cēyaḍāniki iṣṭapaḍatāru mariyu kēvalaṁ oka kānti Android (mariyu WP) (ḍeskṭāp verṣan lō adē pad'dhatilō ṭeksṭ phaiḷlu jōḍin̄caḍaṁ mariyu ērpāṭu enēbul) sādhāraṇa jñāpakālanu undani anuvartanaṁ tō alā prayatnin̄cāḍu Pūrti skrīn ṭeksṭ savarin̄caḍaṁ. Antē.

Nēnu vidhaṅgā pani iṣṭapaḍatāḍu mātramē oka uṇḍakūḍadu. Varḍ māku kādu endukaṇṭē anni tarvāta skrīvanīr kaligi cellin̄cina. Padaṁ ē man̄ci teliyadu (lēdā kēvalaṁ paṭṭin̄cukōnu), lēdā pani vāri lain lō ēdainā upayōgin̄caḍāniki lēdu evaru cēsārō kōsaṁ.

Rāyaḍaṁ _as spaṣṭamaina prakriya uṇṭundi kābaṭṭi ā vidhaṅgā _seriously_ rāyaḍaṁ paḍutundi, rāyaḍāniki, mariyu marōvaipu _want_ na mēmu mā varkphlō cēyaḍāniki _want_ prēraṇa eppuḍū mēmu tarvāta cētilō kaligi jarigē ē sam'me uṇḍāli eppuḍū possible_ vaṇṭi.

Cālā mandi rōju kōsaṁ ā anśaṁ vāri phōn. Mariyu adi ippuḍu cūpin̄caḍāniki iṅkēmī 20 nelala daggaragā ayyindi. Prajalu oka sahanaṁ mariyu nēnu bayaṭaku amalu cakranlā vāṭini ārōpistunnāru cēyavaccu.

Kābaṭṭi, nēnu biggaragā ī ceppē modaṭi okaṭigā civvuna empika vyūhaṁ khaccitaṅgā (māku kanīsaṁ kōsaṁ? - Mī prādhamika viniyōgadārulu) pani lēdu.

Idi nijāyitīgā mīru abbāyilu nijāniki konni sahāyaṁ avasaraṁ kāvaccu vaṇṭi undi, mariyu ā kōsaṁ oka Kickstarter pracāraṁ anni nijāyitī pani adbhutālu lō kālēdu - mariyu, phāsṭ cālā! Lēdā mīru nijaṅgā idi mobail anuvartanālaku vaccinappuḍu mī vyūhaṁ punaścaraṇa parigaṇalōki uṇḍāli.

Prapan̄ca mā cuṭṭū vēgaṅgā mārutundi mariyu khaccitamaina utpattulu pampiṇī nijāniki oka ghōramaina mārgaṁ uṇḍāli nirūpin̄caḍāniki gurin̄ci kalpita aṇṭukunē undi.
To cap, why make everybody wait forever for stuff that most folks will likely never even find a real use for?

Don't you just love it when you see it? I'm sure Young Master Kevin will.
It seems some explanations will never suit… unless it's the one, that one wants to hear/read
Welcome aboard Scrivener Young Master Stupid,
Fluff (flack-proofed)

[KB]

It seems some explanations will never suit… unless it's the one, that one wants to hear/read

Exactly.

stupidAT[etc]: you don't have to appreciate our strategy; it's our strategy nonetheless. A Kickstarter campaign would be an immoral approach for a profitable company, and in fact getting on board more developers would result in slower development, not faster development. It's a myth that more developers = faster production, especially on such a product as Scrivener. We do not sell an iOS version at the moment and we do not say we do; we just say that we are developing one, and yes, it's taken longer than we would have liked, but that's the nature of software development. We have never said that an Android version is in development, though - only that we would like to do one in the future. Users should not buy software based upon future hopes, but only upon what that software can do now. If the desktop version of Scrivener is not enough for you, and your writing depends upon you having a mobile version *right now*, then you should look to other solutions. Or you can just use the existing folder sync feature to edit text on your Android phone in the meantime.