[LH4669] Not sure if this is a bug, exactly - Misplaced notifications

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Charlson
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:20 pm Post

At Scrivener startup, I'm seeing this message pop up for a few seconds:

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I don't know what it means, as it pops up off the top left of the main monitor's screen (my monitor background is solid black, if that's confusing anyone), and this is all I can see.

Even if it is unimportant, if it's going to be shown, it should be shown in its entirety where it can be read.

Just my thoughts.
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:37 pm Post

What your seeing is:

"Sessions Targets Timeout."
"Sessions Targets will now reset."

If you go into Options and the Warnings and reset it. It should clear it out.
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:04 pm Post

EMPisek wrote:What your seeing is:

"Sessions Targets Timeout."
"Sessions Targets will now reset."

If you go into Options and the Warnings and reset it. It should clear it out.



Thanks. Now if it could just be put somewhere useful instead of half off the screen.
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:32 pm Post

Charlson wrote:Thanks. Now if it could just be put somewhere useful instead of half off the screen.


It works fine for me.
Are you using VM by any chance? If not, something else in your machine configuration must be the cause of it.
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:11 pm Post

Just an FYI: This is still showing up partially off the screen in RC9.

I still insist if a product (or a person) wants to tell me something, they ought to care that I can pay attention to what's said. In this case, how about putting it at the center of the screen?

FWIW, I've never cared for the fact that session targets reached method was so out of the way also, in the top right corner, but it kinda makes sense that it wouldn't be right in the editor area where you're typing.
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:54 pm Post

Charlson wrote:Just an FYI: This is still showing up partially off the screen in RC9.

I still insist if a product (or a person) wants to tell me something, they ought to care that I can pay attention to what's said. In this case, how about putting it at the center of the screen?

FWIW, I've never cared for the fact that session targets reached method was so out of the way also, in the top right corner, but it kinda makes sense that it wouldn't be right in the editor area where you're typing.

I think it displayed at some point when you had a different screen resolution, which is why it seems to be off-screen. That said, if you are not using project targets, you can disable the notifications like this:
1) Project->Project Targets
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When the dialog comes up, select Options:
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Options
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When the options dialog comes up, uncheck the Show target notifications:
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Target notifications
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Click OK and then close the Project Targets window.
It would be interesting if you would turn off the notifications and then turn them back on to see where the notification screen resets to (if it does).
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:34 am Post

Jestar wrote:
Charlson wrote:Just an FYI: This is still showing up partially off the screen in RC9.

I still insist if a product (or a person) wants to tell me something, they ought to care that I can pay attention to what's said. In this case, how about putting it at the center of the screen?

FWIW, I've never cared for the fact that session targets reached method was so out of the way also, in the top right corner, but it kinda makes sense that it wouldn't be right in the editor area where you're typing.

I think it displayed at some point when you had a different screen resolution, which is why it seems to be off-screen. That said, if you are not using project targets, you can disable the notifications like this:
1) Project->Project Targets
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When the dialog comes up, select Options:
Annotation 2020-08-18 103405.png
When the options dialog comes up, uncheck the Show target notifications:
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Click OK and then close the Project Targets window.
It would be interesting if you would turn off the notifications and then turn them back on to see where the notification screen resets to (if it does).


But I want the notifications when I reach my session target. And I get that notification on screen. I'm not sure why this startup notification cannot be placed at a specific place on screen where it can actually be read, but I'm not losing sleep over it. It's just a little frustrating that a message is shown that I can't actually read.

Sure, I know what it says (thanks to you) but someone else might not. I just development should know about it.
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:27 pm Post

Charlson wrote:But I want the notifications when I reach my session target. And I get that notification on screen. I'm not sure why this startup notification cannot be placed at a specific place on screen where it can actually be read, but I'm not losing sleep over it. It's just a little frustrating that a message is shown that I can't actually read.

Sure, I know what it says (thanks to you) but someone else might not. I just development should know about it.

I know. That is why I mentioned turning it off, then back on to see if the notification will display in a different position. I agree the devs should take a look at this.
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:26 pm Post

[quote="Charlson"][/quote]
Are you running Scrivener on a virtual machine?
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:04 am Post

krastev wrote:
Charlson wrote:

Are you running Scrivener on a virtual machine?


No. Wouldn't know how to, actually.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:10 am Post

Charlson wrote:Just an FYI: This is still showing up partially off the screen in RC9.

I still insist if a product (or a person) wants to tell me something, they ought to care that I can pay attention to what's said. In this case, how about putting it at the center of the screen?

FWIW, I've never cared for the fact that session targets reached method was so out of the way also, in the top right corner, but it kinda makes sense that it wouldn't be right in the editor area where you're typing.


Mine shows up in the middle of the screen. And it's not so large as the one you show. Are you running, perchance, the HiDPI version of Scrivener?

I don't see a setting that would cause this. The box in which it's framed is a little wide and a little tall, but it's effective at grabbing my attention. It does not run off the screen.

Unfortunately, I can't reproduce the bug at the moment. I tested my first hypothesis, that menus and windows font size was involved, but no. Cranked it up to 24 (the menus are hideous at that size), but the target notification seems to be a fixed size, perhaps relative to the screen (can't test that easily).
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:14 pm Post

Jestar wrote:I know. That is why I mentioned turning it off, then back on to see if the notification will display in a different position.


And, in case I failed to mention this, I did turn it off and then back on. Didn't make a difference.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:21 pm Post

rwfranz wrote:Are you running, perchance, the HiDPI version of Scrivener?


I am, currently, but I was not when I first reported this. I'm seeing it on both.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:26 pm Post

I have dual monitors setup and mine is showing at the bottom left of my prime monitor. So, if it shows in different positions for different users there may be something buggy about it.

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Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:12 pm Post

Charlson wrote:
Jestar wrote:I know. That is why I mentioned turning it off, then back on to see if the notification will display in a different position.


And, in case I failed to mention this, I did turn it off and then back on. Didn't make a difference.

Well, it was an idea. The only other thing I have involves completely uninstalling Scrivener (making sure to remove all registry settings as well), then reinstalling with the DPI version you want. I suspect that the screen resolution changed along the way (maybe switching from the non-HiDPI to HiDPI versions) that set some screen size value somewhere. Devs (or somebody else that knows where that might be) will need to weigh in on this.
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