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What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:28 am
by cStuartHardwick
I "upgraded" to Version: 2.9.9.7 Beta (955095) 64-bit - 13 Jun 2020 and now all the menu labels have been replaced with silly scifi stand ins. Is this someone's idea of a joke?

The top menu is "Command, Maneuvers, Slice, Bridge, Mavigation, Mission, Data Files, Helm, Console.
Instead of "empty trash" we have "open airlock," etc., etc.

It's completely unusable and distracing--and a waste of my time. How do I make this gone?

>> Followup--After the update to 2.9.9.7 and the above mentioned problems, I uninstalled Scrivener and after refreshing the program list in add programs to find a Scrivener 2.9.9.7 entry that cannot be uninstalled (uinstall is grayed out).

>> Second Followup--Reinstalling 2.9.9.7 seems to have resolved it. Leaving the question here for informational purposes. Also for informational purposes.

Re: WTF Happened in Release Candidate 7

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:35 am
by kewms
Moved to beta forum. -- Katherine

Re: WTF Happened in Release Candidate 7

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:47 am
by tiho_d
Most likely you have switched to the SciFi GUI language translation, without realizing it.

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:16 am
by jje
There’s a Sci-Fi GUI language?? Make it so!

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:05 pm
by EMPisek
Data hacked you. :roll:

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:58 pm
by Jestar
jje wrote:There’s a Sci-Fi GUI language?? Make it so!

Options (F12) -> General -> Language -> Science Fiction
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Before you change it back from SciFi, check out the other languages. :)

Re: WTF Happened in Release Candidate 7

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:56 pm
by cStuartHardwick
tiho_d wrote:Most likely you have switched to the SciFi GUI language translation, without realizing it.

Okay...I guess that makes sense...this happened after an attempt to run the "technology update" clocked for a couple of hours when we were having slow internet service, so I can well imaging that happened as part of the aborted upgrade.

The question is--and I ask this as a lifelong scifi fan and 30 year professional software developer--why the hell is that a thing that exists? Localization is important. Letting users make silly, pointless GUI changes that render the interface unusable is just dumb....which is what I said that time I had a client take a "Windows Class" and set their GUI to display white text on a while background.

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:54 pm
by DavidR
A fair question, Stuart. My question would be, is this limited to SciFi, and if so, why? Couldn't there be an interface "dialect" for, say, political conspiracy fiction (File = Top Secret, Edit = Encrypt, View = Eyes Only, etc.; Empty Trash = "Shred with Extreme Prejudice); or romance novels (I blush even to think about it :oops: ).

Re: WTF Happened in Release Candidate 7

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:25 pm
by xiamenese
cStuartHardwick wrote:
tiho_d wrote:Most likely you have switched to the SciFi GUI language translation, without realizing it.

Okay...I guess that makes sense...this happened after an attempt to run the "technology update" clocked for a couple of hours when we were having slow internet service, so I can well imaging that happened as part of the aborted upgrade.

The question is--and I ask this as a lifelong scifi fan and 30 year professional software developer--why the hell is that a thing that exists? Localization is important. Letting users make silly, pointless GUI changes that render the interface unusable is just dumb....which is what I said that time I had a client take a "Windows Class" and set their GUI to display white text on a while background.

The answer is: many years ago, one of the regular users at the time—I can't remember who—created it for fun and posted it for others to play with. I rather wonder if s/he's still using it! But clearly, it's still there as an option.

:)

Mark

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:47 pm
by kewms
Using a "fake" language also makes it possible to test the localization mechanisms before the "real" translations are done. Using a clearly fake language prevents confusion: you might not know if you're in the "test" or "actual" French interface, but Scifi is obvious.

Plus it's fun.

Katherine

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:29 pm
by EMPisek
kewms wrote:Using a "fake" language also makes it possible to test the localization mechanisms before the "real" translations are done. Using a clearly fake language prevents confusion: you might not know if you're in the "test" or "actual" French interface, but Scifi is obvious.

Plus it's fun.

Katherine


Honestly, it breaks the monotony at times as it causes the mind to think more on what is what and where. It's like how people would change the pointer to something different. It was their machine after all although I won't go on about Clippy. Also you will be "Assimilated".

Now about that StarWars layout. May the farce be with you.

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:25 am
by Scribblette
I think it's hilariously awesome that this exists. I hadn't stumbled across it. Now I totally have to try it out.

Re: What Happened in Release Candidate 7 GUI

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:19 am
by chrisdr2
I got up at 6am to make an early start on draft editing - then I read this :-)
Aye aye captain.