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sbradabang
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Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:53 am Post

Germanikus wrote:But RC5 is running to the end of May. Not sure if that is a good or bad sign. But could be a way to keep the version numbers low. :wink:


Maybe they have some big bug to cope with, like their bête noire, bullet lists. After fixing many smaller bugs, now they have to put effort into things like this. :wink:

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Gothelittle
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Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:11 pm Post

sbradabang wrote:
Germanikus wrote:But RC5 is running to the end of May. Not sure if that is a good or bad sign. But could be a way to keep the version numbers low. :wink:


Maybe they have some big bug to cope with, like their bête noire, bullet lists. After fixing many smaller bugs, now they have to put effort into things like this. :wink:


It could also be that the bugs are coming more slowly now, and they need some time for people to find enough to justify fixing and making a new version. Either way, it's an extra step towards the end of the Beta.

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Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:23 pm Post

Apropo of unsolicited opinion, I'd like to point out that a scan of the release post that gets updated each time a new version is available—specifically regarding which bugs are now fixed—blows me away this time at the sheer number of bugs fixed (though I remain uncertain if this is cumulative, or if it's inclusive from previous releases) is staggering, given the smallness of their team (only two developers, if I recall correctly.)

Bravo!
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Sun May 10, 2020 8:55 am Post

devinganger wrote:
jesuslpgc wrote:Well RC 3 and the next update will be 10 days instead of the usual 7. It seems the final version will take some time yet. I do not expect a 2020 release yet.


Trying to divine the release date by looking at the number of beta releases and expiration dates is like trying to divine the future by reading the dregs of a cup of tea. It may feel like you're doing something significant...but it's really not.


And here we are on RC 5 with a life span of a whole month and no sign of final release.... #2021 for the masses or perhaps we should set our sights for #2022?

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Sun May 10, 2020 10:36 am Post

And here we are on RC 5 with a life span of a whole month and no sign of final release.... #2021 for the masses or perhaps we should set our sights for #2022?


Well ya, but-- need I go on? Oh very well, I will go on.

I've been using the beta for like, forever, like. Produced plenty output. Made money from plenty output produced. Can't wait for 2022 to arrive so I can count more money.

What problems are you having? V1.9x is perfectly usable. Works plenty good. Me produce plenty output with v1.9x. Get paid money.

What was I saying? I forget.

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Sun May 10, 2020 5:40 pm Post

Sometimes projects take longer than expected. Complaining isn't going to help. It's not like they're slacking off. They're constantly working on fixing bugs. There are still lots of little bugs, so it might be a while until it's released. That's fine. It's better than rushing something out.

In the meanwhile, the beta works pretty well and hasn't had any serious issues. I'm a full-time writer and have been using the beta for work since 2902 back in December of 2017. I've never lost work, and have produced several novels in it in that time. The only minor annoyance was loss of epub2 (which I think they added back?) but that actually spurred me to find a better solution to compiling and now I have a python script that completely automates the process for me, saving me several hours per book.

So whether 2021 or 2022, everyone here has access to the free beta, which works well mostly, most of the time.

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Sun May 10, 2020 6:04 pm Post

shaun wrote:Sometimes projects take longer than expected. Complaining isn't going to help. It's not like they're slacking off. They're constantly working on fixing bugs. There are still lots of little bugs, so it might be a while until it's released. That's fine. It's better than rushing something out.

In the meanwhile, the beta works pretty well and hasn't had any serious issues. I'm a full-time writer and have been using the beta for work since 2902 back in December of 2017. I've never lost work, and have produced several novels in it in that time. The only minor annoyance was loss of epub2 (which I think they added back?) but that actually spurred me to find a better solution to compiling and now I have a python script that completely automates the process for me, saving me several hours per book.

So whether 2021 or 2022, everyone here has access to the free beta, which works well mostly, most of the time.


Nicely said... but just one question are you from the future? You said since 2902 back in December of 2017? I guess you travelled back in time from 2902 to December 2017? Do we have to assume that V3 for Windows has not been released in 2902 yet?????

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Sun May 10, 2020 6:22 pm Post

Version 2902, aka 2.9.0.2.

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Thu May 21, 2020 5:44 pm Post

I bought Scrivener for Windows a year or so ago before I even knew there was a beta for a new version, and I get migraines a lot so when I came to the forums looking for how to change it to 'dark mode' and discovered the beta, I got it. Been using it ever since and really hoping it will finally be released, finished and ready. Written 12 books in it so far. 2 on Amazon right now and I have 2 new ones in the works I just started... (No, I haven't made much money but honestly that doesn't stop me from doing what I love.) And I worry all the time, what if something happens and they never release it? All this work is sitting here in Scrivener files.... I hope they are close to releasing the official version. The word 'release' really got me going too. :)

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Thu May 21, 2020 8:26 pm Post

@caenissnow, I think you can be quite confident that the Scrivener team are going to 'finish it'.

Realize that they are in several locations, UK and Australia principally, others in North America etc.. So everyone including you is protected.

You are further and always protected, in that your Scrivener files are in a completely open, long term, readable format within their project folders: RTF.

So if you couldn't use the Scrivener app tomorrow, you could immediately go in with Word, Google Docs, or other open source equivalents, and once again use your work.

For the rest of the feelings that come up somehow, patience is indeed a virtue, not so?

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Thu May 21, 2020 10:44 pm Post

Over three weeks now since RC5 was released. I think that's a very positive indication of its maturity.

My birthday is in late June.
I think there is a good chance I'll have bought Scrivener 3 for Windows by then. :D

Time will tell.

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Thu May 21, 2020 10:56 pm Post

caenissnow wrote:I bought Scrivener for Windows a year or so ago before I even knew there was a beta for a new version, and I get migraines a lot so when I came to the forums looking for how to change it to 'dark mode' and discovered the beta, I got it. Been using it ever since and really hoping it will finally be released, finished and ready. Written 12 books in it so far. 2 on Amazon right now and I have 2 new ones in the works I just started... (No, I haven't made much money but honestly that doesn't stop me from doing what I love.) And I worry all the time, what if something happens and they never release it? All this work is sitting here in Scrivener files.... I hope they are close to releasing the official version. The word 'release' really got me going too. :)


I use the Sync To Folder option. It also saves the files (in a format of your choosing; I pick rtf) in the folder structure of your binder, for much easier location and transplanting if necessary. It also lets me do some editing on the road, and syncs back into the project when I get back to my Scrivener computer.

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Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:22 pm Post

I finally broke down and installed RC --

I had not really looked at the earlier beta versions since I did not want to get my hopes up.

But I am so happy to see things that I had needed (snapshot compares, revision mode....)

So looking forward to v3 !!! And I (being hopeful) wish it will be released in 2020 !!


pcgeekesq wrote:But here in the Scrivener-W Beta forums, I see good news. "Beta" has become "Release Candidate." Testers are still dutifully reporting issues, and I have every confidence that the Scrivener-W team is working to address them.
.....

It's nice to think that soon I'll be able to pay for Scrivener-W 3.0
Thanks, L&L, for keeping a light on in the gloom.