scrivener 3 beta (from xx to 44) very slow

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Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:42 pm Post

Hi
I have v1 for windows and ipad version.
I am trying v3 for win (in two different i7 computers quite powerful).
I have a quite huge project, containing something like 1000 files (total is around 120000 words). I split my screen in two parts: one is corkboard and the other is editor in continuity (all the files one under others).
To open it takes 15 minutes. Same to quit.
I tried with the outliner and editor: more than 25 minutes.
I think this is very long, especially for a soft which is created in the aim of manage novels...
Is that a bug?
Thanks to help, and to repair if possible.
C. Sauvenay

PS
This file is impossible to work in with my ipad-mini: very long too.

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Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:52 pm Post

It may be that this thread is discussing a problem that is similar to yours: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58795. One post near the end says that they hope to have it fixed in beta 45: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=311116#p311116
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:37 pm Post

csv wrote:Hi
I have v1 for windows and ipad version.
I am trying v3 for win (in two different i7 computers quite powerful).
I have a quite huge project, containing something like 1000 files (total is around 120000 words). I split my screen in two parts: one is corkboard and the other is editor in continuity (all the files one under others).
To open it takes 15 minutes. Same to quit.
I tried with the outliner and editor: more than 25 minutes.
I think this is very long, especially for a soft which is created in the aim of manage novels...
Is that a bug?
Thanks to help, and to repair if possible.
C. Sauvenay

PS
This file is impossible to work in with my ipad-mini: very long too.

There is a bug, and as David said, it must be fixed in the next beta according to the devs.
I have a question: Why do you need all the files constantly opened in Scrivenings mode? You can't possibly work simultaneously on 1000 documents, then why don't you open only the subset of files that you are working on? You can Ctrl+Click the files you need and open them in Scrivenings mode. Wouldn't that be a workaround option?

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Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:33 pm Post

Thank you very much, hoping that the 45 will help.
I want to have everything in the same time because I am reading and writing here and there all the time.

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Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:44 pm Post

csv wrote:Hi
I have v1 for windows and ipad version.
I am trying v3 for win (in two different i7 computers quite powerful).
I have a quite huge project, containing something like 1000 files (total is around 120000 words). I split my screen in two parts: one is corkboard and the other is editor in continuity (all the files one under others).
To open it takes 15 minutes. Same to quit.
I tried with the outliner and editor: more than 25 minutes.
I think this is very long, especially for a soft which is created in the aim of manage novels...

The file, at 120k words, is not as large as some I've loaded into scrivener (I loaded one that was 11 Gigabytes, somewhere around 2 million words. It was slow, but not 15 minutes).

When working with large numbers of documents, organizing them into folders helps. Create in the Manuscript or Draft folder several folders. Move your documents into those folders in some organized fashion (for your sake; Scrivener won't care) -- perhaps 1-99 in Folder 0, 100-199 in folder 1 200-299 in folder 2... something akin to this. Scrivener should be immediately faster.

When moving the documents, Scrivener may seem to become unresponsive if you move more than 60 or 70 at a time (this was with a fairly powerful machine). See https://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=57364 more information.
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:32 pm Post

Thanks again for that precise answer.
The trouble is that I plan to organise those thousands of small texts in 3 or 4 parts. I don't want to cut it as you tell me to do, even if it is better for time reasons, because I need everything to be clear in front of my eyes, not artificially pre-organised.
But that is very useful to know that, even if I think that such a soft should not have that kind of trouble.

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Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:49 pm Post

csv wrote:But that is very useful to know that, even if I think that such a soft should not have that kind of trouble.

I think it shouldn't either. Every piece of software has its quirks, and this is one of Scrivener's. It wants chapters. Make one chapter, and move all your docs into it? Don't know if that'll help, but it might.
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Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:53 am Post

Unfortunately the program is getting slower and slower.
The program startup now takes several minutes and generates up to 30% CPU load (AMD Ryzen 3200G, 16 GB Ram). The program reacts very sluggishly to changes in the view or selection of a folder/text in the binder (unlike in the past for the same project). Since the update to version 2.9.9.1, this effect has increased even more.
My project folder is 1.25GB in size - the srivx file just 24 MB.

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Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:36 pm Post

I made chapters, not better.
I am downloading the 2.9.9.2 version, I will see...

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Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:09 pm Post

DavidR wrote:It may be that this thread is discussing a problem that is similar to yours: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58795. One post near the end says that they hope to have it fixed in beta 45: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=311116#p311116


I don't think it has been fixed. I'm one of the people who has been reporting that issue. I've tried the version *.45 and RC1 and I'm now on RC2 and the problem is still there.

In contrast, the older version (1.29 or whatever it was) is nearly instant opening the same documents.

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Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:11 pm Post

rwfranz wrote:
csv wrote:But that is very useful to know that, even if I think that such a soft should not have that kind of trouble.

I think it shouldn't either. Every piece of software has its quirks, and this is one of Scrivener's. It wants chapters. Make one chapter, and move all your docs into it? Don't know if that'll help, but it might.


I've tried that. It makes no difference whatsoever. It's simply the number of files it chews through. In my case it's only around 95 files, not thousands.

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Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:45 pm Post

Same for me. I tried the new version. Not better...

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Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:59 pm Post

Guys, try Files > Save and Rebuild Indexes. Restart Scrivener. Does the Outliner load speed improve?

If it does not, please start Scrivener via ScrivenerLog.bat. Upon loading a folder inside the Outliner, monitor how many documents are loaded inside the log view. There should be only one, the root document.

Please, also report the columns that you have visible in Outliner view. Currently documents with lots of Comments/Footnotes cause the major delays.

Please, do not test projects with a *.scrivx file having ~30 MB or more, and total project size more than 1GB of text. These projects will almost always cause delays, if you load all documents in any view.

If some of you can upload a project causing Outliner delays, or send it to me via email, I will be happy to trace this further,

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Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:23 am Post

Thanks very much, I'll try that as soon as possible.

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Wed May 06, 2020 2:56 pm Post

Just a message to say: the last version (2995) is really better, according to that specific matter.