iPad 2018 or iPad Pro 10.5" ?

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Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:45 am Post

Hi Everyone

I'm a very long time Scrivener user (and lover) but about to sail into unfamiliar waters: Scrivener for iOS and the iPad. I've been looking at the 10.5" iPad Pro - but do I really need that much grunt? Will the ordinary iPad, now that it supports Apple Pencil, do the job? I'd love to hear any experiences and/or advice people have to share.

thanks in advance
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:05 am Post

There are several aspects that may or may not matter to you.

Size: The iPad Pro 10.5 is slightly bigger than the ipad 2018 (10.5 to 9.7). The difference doesn't sound that big though both are still in a size range where every cm or inch counts. Especially as the onscreen Keyboard needs some space.

Keyboard: The iPad Pro 10.5 has the smart connector on board which means you can use Apples smart keyboard if you which to get an external keyboard. The iPad 2018 on the other hand can only make use of bluetooth keyboards. Those ones you NEED to charge regulary as they use a battery as power supply while the smart keyboard doesn't need that. Next to the battery/connectivity question you should make sure, that you can type on the desired keyboard for some time. Not every Keyboard is a great keyboard but thats up to you.

Specs: Spec wise the difference shouldn't really matter. Not for Scrivener.

After all if size matters you should keep in mind that rumor has it that there will come an 11 inch ipad pro this year.

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Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:22 am Post

Screen size matters.
I definitely prefer the 12.9" pro compared to anything smaller.

Edit: we have the sizes 7.9, 9.7 and 12.9 in the family...
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:31 am Post

I own neither iPad, but I do have the larger (12.9 inch) iPad Pro. So, obviously, discount my advice accordingly.

Generally, in my opinion where writing is concerned, bigger is better (and the 10.5 is I believe one-fifth bigger than the ordinary iPad). I find that seeing as much of the page as possible when I'm writing is helpful. Your age may also indicate that bigger is better: old eyes can deteriorate surprisingly quickly.

But if you need mobility for your iPad then obviously 9.7 may be a better size. For myself I've not found the 12.9 difficult to travel with, and so the same must be true for the 10.5 (and unlike the 12.9, the 10.5 is, I'm told, supportable by one hand for long periods).

I can't obviously comment on other factors such as power and screen resolution, except to say that I believe that sheer grunt is less important for Scrivener for iOS than for some other iOS applications.

If you can, go and try each model out at your local Apple store, if you have one. Try out their virtual keyboards. That's what I did before I settled for the 12.9.
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:01 am Post

Thanks very much for that. Really well considered responses and very helpful! The thing I forgot to mention was that I spend 90% of my time in front of an iMac at my desk. The idea is to have something portable and handy when I have to travel for meetings. There might be some writing but mainly note taking and such. Anyway, thanks again, really helpful!
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Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:42 pm Post

I use the 2018 version fine for writing. I use the on screen keyboard for short pieces and a bluetooth keyboard when writing longer ones. Mind you, the 9.7" screen is the biggest tablet screen I've had! Hope that helps.
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Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:09 pm Post

I have an iPad Mini with an external keyboard and love it. The combined unit is about the size of a "junior" size paper notebook, making it enormously more portable than its bigger cousins. I'd definitely recommend thinking carefully about your actual usage before buying.

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Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:29 pm Post

I have an iPad air 2, but hardly ever use it for Scrivener any more. My Mac is a Macbook Air 11, and whenever I deliberately go out to write, I pack it. For ideas that hit while I'm standing in line at Costco, my iPhone 6s Plus works fine. I keep a folding keyboard for it in my purse, so if I find myself at loose ends (long wait at doctor's office, etc.) I can pound out some words. The iPad is relegated to project planning stages (crude map drawings, handwritten brainstorming, etc.) which get sucked in to Evernote with the rest of my research.

I therefore find myself agreeing with Katherine that agility can be more important than screen area. Were I faced with replacing the iPad today, I certainly wouldn't go bigger than the iPad with Apple pencil, would consider the iPad mini, and might not replace at all.
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Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:42 am Post

My usage is similar to yours: most Scrivening is done on a Mac with Apple Cinema Display. My 9.7” iPad Pro is used when I’m at libraries, coffee shops, etc. I find the screen just fine for using Scrivener, though I’m sure I’d enjoy it even more at 10.5” or 12.9”. But since my iPad, like yours, is mostly used for note-taking and occasional mobile Scrivening, I wouldn’t want to sacrifice the portability (nor the dollars) for a larger screen. If I were a full- or most-time iPad Scrivener, I’d want a bigger screen.

I do use a thin, light, i nexpensive bluetooth keyboard with my iPad, which of course leaves the entire screen free for Scrivening, and I’d highly recommend getting one. I have to charge mine about once a year, and it’s as simple as plugging it into a USB charger. I haven’t used the Apple Smart Keyboard because of decidedly mixed reviews and high price. So for me, that Smart Connector capability is another advantage of the iPad Pro that wouldn’t really benefit you unless you just love the ASK.

That leaves the screen quality, and I have to say that the Pro’s TrueTone capability really is, for me, a significant advantage over the regular iPad — but that’s because I spend several hours a day reading, not Scrivening, on the iPad Pro. For short Scrivening stints, I doubt it’d make that much difference.

So based on your anticipated usage, I’d suggest getting the regular iPad and a good bluetooth keyboard and save a lot of money. Let us know what you decide.

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Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:26 pm Post

Some very insightful responses to your question, let me add another view.

I bought the iPad Pro 10.5 specially for using Scrivener while on the road. I find it to be the perfect companion for frequent air travel; the screen resolution, size, and functionality of Scrivener iOS are a wonderful combination for traveling writers. I added the Zagg rugged case to protect against the inevitable knocks and drops common to air travel and, again, am quite pleased with this accessory.

The keyboard is bluetooth, not a detractor for my use, and has an acceptable feel and key spacing, Both the iPad and keyboard/case recharge separately and the battery life on the keyboard is excellent (a couple of weeks at my usage rate). The support stand on the case is stable and adapts to even the most meager of airline tray tables.

Good luck. :)

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Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:15 pm Post

RussF wrote:I added the Zagg rugged case to protect against the inevitable knocks and drops common to air travel and, again, am quite pleased with this accessory


I've got that same Zagg Rugged Folio case and find it quite handy with my 2018 iPad. The keyboard is lighted, which helps in darker situations. It has the magnets to turn on and off with opened and closed. The keyboard syncs faithfully, something not true of all BT keyboards. I like how easily the iPad section splits off the keyboard when I need something light for just reading. The only downside is that it weighs much more, but that comes with protection.

I picked up the version for the iPad Air since it is the same size. The only glitch is are the volume up/down keys are offset slightly. The up volume button now lowers the volume and for up volume, I reach inside the opening for a button not on the new iPad.

All in all, I quite happy with using it as a laptop replacement at less than half the price. I would, however, strongly recommend getting the 128GB model. Eventually 32GB is likely to prove to be too little.

I've yet to get the Apple Pencil, but I have begun to wonder how Scrivener could take advantage of it. Perhaps different orientations or pressures could be use for different tasks when editing.

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Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:50 am Post

Speaking of Zagg, this looks very promising. I’ve seen some reports of quality problems in Amazon Zagg reviews so might want to wait till after it’s been tested, but it solves one of the problems that my current set up (Apple Wireless Keyboard + Incase Origami) also solves: you don’t have to buy a new keyboard every time you replace your iPad. And it works with my iPhone too.

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Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:36 am Post

For me, it's still hard to decide which iPad is better to get. The iPad Pro (12.9-inch) in the Apple iPad generations list seems quite good to me. Cause it has a bigger screen and support to use a smart keyboard and apple pencil.

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Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:56 pm Post

Another vote for the 12.9"! I love it. Can't read with one hand, but having owned a 9.7" that wasn't really tenable anyway. (And I have big hands!)

Plus, the full size smart keyboard is great. Some people don't like the feel of the case, but never having to worry about charging it, or bluetooth connectivity, or getting a separate stand/cover, is more than worth the price of admission.

Also, mine failed a few months ago and Apple replaced it, no questions asked. It was about a year and a half old, and out of warranty.

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Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:25 am Post

I've been using iPad 2018 and it's just perfect for me. I don't need all the power and better resolution of iPad Pro because I only use iPad 2018 for writing and listening Spotify at the same time. I'm using Apple Wireless Keyboard (2011) as an external keyboard and Targus VersaVu Case and with those my writing experience is perfect. Apple's keyboard feels just like writing with laptop's keyboard, but it's small enough to take it with me while going to cafe or library etc. Can't be more happier with this combo!