Caution - iTunes Update and what it means?

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Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:31 pm Post

Apple has made available an update to desktop iTunes. There's much gnashing of teeth about it, particularly by those who use iTunes as their media hub. The details as to the changes are sketchy but it appears that they are significant.

If you have auto-update enabled on your desktop and you rely on iTunes for managing Scrivener projects, other apps, media and iDevices, you should consider disabling it until Apple and others provide complete information on the new iTunes. Could be it no longer meets your needs or that you'll have to train yourself on how to best use its new configuration.
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Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:01 pm Post

I too was apprehensive about this, and still am bothered as I prefer using iTunes to handle my apps and transfer them to my iPhone, and first reports said that the apps tab on iPhone/iPad sync was missing.

There is however a new tab for file transfer called "File Sharing" that lists the apps that use this functionality and it looks pretty much the same. So Scrivener file transfer using iTunes remains intact. So managing files remains, managing apps is gone along with iTunesU and ringtones.

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Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:31 pm Post

First, a belated thank you to Peskat.

For those who inadvertently updated iTunes to 12.7, Apple has made available 12.6.3.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/09/ap ... -included/
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Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:52 am Post

Peskat wrote:There is however a new tab for file transfer called "File Sharing" that lists the apps that use this functionality and it looks pretty much the same. So Scrivener file transfer using iTunes remains intact. So managing files remains, managing apps is gone along with iTunesU and ringtones.


Unfortunately this isn’t working for me, at least not with iTunes for Windows. The file sharing chooser only allows for selecting a file, but a Scrivener project is specified as a folder (with a .scriv suffix). I used to be able to drag and drop a project folder onto the list, but not anymore.

Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution to it?

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Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:53 pm Post

Andarian wrote:Unfortunately this isn’t working for me, at least not with iTunes for Windows. The file sharing chooser only allows for selecting a file, but a Scrivener project is specified as a folder (with a .scriv suffix). I used to be able to drag and drop a project folder onto the list, but not anymore.

Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution to it?

I don't have iTunes 12.7. I've read (including at the following link) that you can't drag and transfer a folder. I've always used the UI *Add* method rather than drag and drop. Have you tried it?

I know nothing about the app at the following link but the instruction page does explain, including with the use of images, the *Add and Open* iTunes 12.7 process for Windows. (Actually explains for more versions but you'll recognize the 12.7 image.)
http://support.viewranger.com/index.php ... page&id=83
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Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:27 pm Post

Can I ask why the iCloud drive can't be used?

I'm not trying to be contrary -- at least, not knowingly -- but I've never used the iTunes method of file transfer, so this all appears a bit odd to me. I'm happy to learn, though.

I'm fully Apple'd-up with MBP, iPhone, iPad, and even an Apple TV, so I'm familiar with this universe. I didn't join in until 2013, so perhaps I'm simply unfamiliar with the way things were done before then. I use iTunes for music, films, etc. It doesn't occur to me use it for moving files around.

I'm mostly curious.
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Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:32 pm Post

iOS Scrivener does not support iCloud, for technical reasons having to do with the structure of Scrivener projects. Direct file transfer via iTunes is the alternative for people who prefer not to use Dropbox.

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Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:04 am Post

+1 to what Katherine said. I prefer not to use third party or cloud services.

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Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:17 am Post

scshrugged wrote:I've always used the UI *Add* method rather than drag and drop. Have you tried it?


Yes, I have tried this, and I cannot make it work. The “add” button merely descends into the folder to try to let you select one of its individual files. It will not let you select the full folder required for a working Scrivener project. And it is not possible to get around this limitation by using “drag and drop” on the folder. (Unless there’s some trick to doing this that I don’t understand - which is why I’m asking :).)

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Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:27 am Post

Yep, you're right. Figured it was worth a try. Hopefully, @kewms or someone else can come up with something. You could revert to 12.6.3 if needed (link above).

Good luck.
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