Where are the files, man?

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:07 pm Post

Glad you're up and running. Happy writing :-)

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:11 pm Post

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Okay . . . here's the screenshot of what I have in Dropbox. What I did:

1. Went into my writing folder elsewhere on the laptop. Selected the relevant .scriv file.
2. Dragged it over to Dropbox/Apps/Scrivener.
3. Clicked Sync in iOS.

Note: The New World file I created on iPad, then moved into Dropbox.

Double-check your Dropbox drive and make sure that the file REALLY is there.

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:14 pm Post

Indeed, do not use the "Sync with External Folder" feature - that is something else completely.

All you need to do is put your Scrivener projects in /Dropbox/Apps/Scrivener and sync. That's it.

Also, be sure that Dropbox on the desktop fully syncs on your Mac/Windows machine before syncing on iOS, otherwise not all the files may be available to be opened on iOS.

Please note that there are full instructions for syncing in the iOS Tutorial.

Yosimiti - if you are running into conflicts, it's because you are not waiting for all files to sync before trying to open the project, or because you are editing the project in two places at the same time. You would have those problems no matter *what* sync solution was used.

So, in short:

1. Place any Scrivener projects you want to sync with Scrivener in /Dropbox/Apps/Scrivener (or whichever Dropbox sub folder you want to use).

2. Make sure Dropbox on your desktop has time to sync all the files (check the icon in the menu bar on the Mac to make sure it has finished syncing.

3. Sync on iOS (with Dropbox set up to link to the same folder in (1).

That's it. When you've made changes on iOS and are ready to go back to your Mac/Windows machine, hit sync. Again, make sure all the files have been synced by Dropbox on your desktop (again check the Dropbox app icon) before continuing to use the project on the Mac. Before to hit File > Mobile > Sync with Mobile Devices if necessary, although normally you will be prompted if there are changes.
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:41 pm Post

yosimiti wrote:It constantly creates conflict files when there are no conflicts. Very messy. When I save from Scrivener desktop, it makes the changes to the file in the dropbox folder. (dropbox/apps/scrivener). But when I open the same file in Scrivener for iOS, it says that there are conflicts (even when there are none), and that it's going to create a conflict folder. I now have three conflict folders even when there are no conflicts. The same is true when I edit the file in Scrivener iOS. I edit the file, save it to dropbox, but then when I open the same file on my desktop, it says that there are conflicts and that it will again create conflict files. All these conflict files are adding up and it's making the whole process very, very messy.


I've just spent some time actively trying to create conflicts. The only way I can do so is if I make changes to iOS and Mac versions without syncing in between. When you say that you "save it to Dropbox" on iOS, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that you tap the sync button in Scrivener? You need to make sure you work on one platform at a time and sync before moving to the other platform. I've turned on the "sync projects on close" option to help make this step smoother.

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:57 pm Post

I think it is the word "sync" that creates the problems. People think they need to do something special on their Macs and PCs, which they don't.

To set it up You SAVE your Scrivener project in the correct folder on Dropbox. Then you OPEN the same project automatically if you point the iOS Scrivener to the correct Dropbox folder.

"Syncing" is a later process, when you have made changes to the stuff.
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:01 pm Post

Leave the shared folder path alone

All I did..

    On Macbook Pro Copied files to Dropbox/apps/scrivenor
    On ipad, synced to dropbox and files appeared

Been trying to break the sync all morning, seems very robust indeed

Well done

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:15 pm Post

Hi
Can I just add that the instructions to sync are not that clear. I have used Scrivener pretty much as long as it has been out, and love it. So I was dead keen to buy the IPad version today, and have spent the morning searching for answers on the sync issue. I had followed the instructions, or so I thought, but like others was using the usual 'synch to external folder' option. I have been tearing my hair out, and came on here for answers. Seeing others having the same issue at least made me feel a bit better, and finally the answer is posted! 'SAVE as ' the document, not 'sync with external'. And now it all works, there it is, my book on my iPad. I think the fact that it is 'save as' needs to be highlighted in the instructions, in bold maybe. As an ex Analyst Programmer I know that things that seem completely , eye boggingly obvious to the developer are often totally missed/misunderstood by the user, especially the 'super keen to get this new exciting thing working' ones, which was me today.
Otherwise, it all looks fantastic so far :)

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:24 pm Post

The instructions seem pretty clear to me. The problem is that some are/were using the wrong command, possibly because they were used to using work arounds to work on iOS devices before today. Easily cleared up, aren't the forums great!

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:27 pm Post

BookBoy wrote:I don't think you should be using the "sync to external folder" feature. That's the tool that was created to sync with other iOS text editors.

Just go to Dropbox in the finder, locate the actual .scriv file for your project and drag it into the apps/scrivener folder.

Jonathan


What about an alias of the .scriv file being moved to the particular Dropbox folder? I'd prefer to keep my project files local to my Mac, in my Documents folder preferably.

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:30 pm Post

No!

If you want to work on different computers you can't have the files local on one of them. How do you think the second computer could read the hard drive on the first computer?
I am a user, writing non-fiction and science, using:
* Mac Scrivener 3 on a Macbook 12”, MacBook Pro 13”, and iMac 27”, all running the latest MacOS
* iOS Scrivener 1 on an iPhone 8, iPad Air 9.7”, and iPad Pro 12.9”, all running the latest iOS

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:36 pm Post

silviu.gherman wrote:Sweet Jesus, I only had to save the project in Dropbox.

I thought it did that automatically when it synced. Now everything's fine.

Thanks a bunch.


What do you mean "save" the project in Dropbox? I'm in a similar boat - I thought that the syncing was all the needed to be done.

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:38 pm Post

Your dropbox folder is local to your mac. It just also syncs.

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:39 pm Post

jame58rown wrote: Been trying to break the sync all morning


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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:40 pm Post

andrewmlangford wrote:What do you mean "save" the project in Dropbox? I'm in a similar boat - I thought that the syncing was all the needed to be done.


You Save as... the project in the correct folder when you are on your Mac/PC. That's all there is to it.
I am a user, writing non-fiction and science, using:
* Mac Scrivener 3 on a Macbook 12”, MacBook Pro 13”, and iMac 27”, all running the latest MacOS
* iOS Scrivener 1 on an iPhone 8, iPad Air 9.7”, and iPad Pro 12.9”, all running the latest iOS

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Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:42 pm Post

lunk wrote:No!

If you want to work on different computers you can't have the files local on one of them. How do you think the second computer could read the hard drive on the first computer?


Understood. But I am talking about the difference between the main/original as primary versus a working copy. having your original/primary project stored "in the cloud" is not what I consider to be the safest practice, IMHO. I consider Dropbox to be a work/scratch/backup space, not a place I would ever fully trust storage of important documents. My local drive is backed up to separate servers, via LAN and WAN, which are far more secure than a third-party solution, like Dropbox. I guess I am going to have to force backups of Dropbox folders now.