iPad air, mini or pro?

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Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:02 pm Post

portiadacosta wrote:Sadly, I think I'm going to have to return the Razer keyboard. :(

The key action is wonderful, but the keyboard layout issues are just too much for me. The positioning of the navigation keys in relation to the right hand shift key is just too awkward for my hands and even after just a short typing session it causes a lot of discomfort when I have to reach for the shift with my right little finger. I also keep hitting the up arrow key or the forward slash on a regular basis when I want a capital.

The Razer is a lovely piece of kit, and maybe for somebody with larger hands and longer little fingers it might be just the ticket, but my hands are small and my little fingers are weirdly shorter than I'd realised. :shock:

So it's back to my Zagg Slimbook. Weighs a ton, and the key action isn't as light as the Razer, but the layout is much more comfortable and mirrors the layout of my Macbook. I've got the Smart keyboard too, which is okay in an emergency but with a heavier key action, no backlight and no choice of angles.


A couple of questions portiacosta:

1. Is the experience of using the Razer keyboard a loud experience compared to say the experience on old macbook?
2. Is there any way to remove the keys, without violating warranties? On traditional mechanical keyboards, it's rather easy to remove the keycaps? The thing is, I type with a dvorak configuration from a hand injury, so I need to swap keys.
3. Isnt' the zagg slimbook, one of those foldable mini keyboards? Why should it weigh a ton? Unless I'm mistaking the product you are referring to.

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Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:14 pm Post

Hi!

No, the Razer keyboard isn't particularly loud. Bit of a clickety click, but not deafening. Wouldn't say it was much, if any louder than a Macbook. A different sort of sound.

No idea whether taking the keys off invalidates the warranty. At a guess, I say probably. There's nothing in the documentation about converting to Dvorak. Maybe you could contact Razer from their web site?

The Zagg doesn't fold. The keyboard itself is one solid piece, plus a plastic back case for Ipad and it's very heavy. Over 2 lb when attached to Ipad.

HTH

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Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:02 pm Post

hi portiadcosta,

many thanks for your response. so I guess it's a quiet mechanical keyboard then.

Can one use the keyboard for other iOS devices or is it strictly an accessory to an iPad pro 12.9?

I will contact razor for other needs, but many thanks for your response!

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Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:38 pm Post

yosimiti wrote:hi portiadcosta,

many thanks for your response. so I guess it's a quiet mechanical keyboard then.

Can one use the keyboard for other iOS devices or is it strictly an accessory to an iPad pro 12.9?

I will contact razor for other needs, but many thanks for your response!


I think I read somewhere that it can be paired with other iPads etc. It's Bluetooth, so doesn't rely on the Smart connector and can be used 'unattached' to the case that fits on the back of the iPad Pro. I must say, the kickstand is a useful feature of the Razer case.

HTH

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Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:17 pm Post

I use an older Apple keyboard, external, blue tooth. Works on two double AAs and just works dandy.
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Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:03 pm Post

I too used to use my old apple wireless keyboard, in its Incase Origami keyboard case/stand, with my iPad Pro. It's my regular Mac keyboard when I have it hooked up to my display. But I switched to the Logitech keys to go because it was much thinner, quieter, cheap ($14), and unlike the Apple board, didn't cause the emoji screen to pop up when I hit the FN key. On the other hand, the FN key on the KTG will sometimes cause a freeze, so I have to switch out of whatever app I'm using and back. So, no forward deleting for me!
**update** A software update fixed this forward delete problem a few days later. Happily using the KTG for a year now with first the iPad Mini 2 and lately the iPad Pro 9.7.
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Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:02 pm Post

portiadacosta wrote:The positioning of the navigation keys in relation to the right hand shift key is just too awkward for my hands and even after just a short typing session it causes a lot of discomfort when I have to reach for the shift with my right little finger. I also keep hitting the up arrow key or the forward slash on a regular basis when I want a capital.

I have the same problem. I bought a nice, little, lightweight, foldable keyboard from "supremery", that has the same idiotic layout: the shift key is far to the right, behind the arrow keys. There is a huge minus-key that looks just like it's made for shift. It's impossible to type tenfingered on that keyboard, so I'll return it.
Does anybody know a foldable keyboard where you can type on?

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Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:42 pm Post

The belkin I'm using is good when it actually works. It's tiny though. And I'm not sure I understand this shift key business but so far so good

http://m.belkin.com/us/p/P-F5L175/

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Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:47 pm Post

GrahamGrün wrote:
portiadacosta wrote:The positioning of the navigation keys in relation to the right hand shift key is just too awkward for my hands and even after just a short typing session it causes a lot of discomfort when I have to reach for the shift with my right little finger. I also keep hitting the up arrow key or the forward slash on a regular basis when I want a capital.

I have the same problem. I bought a nice, little, lightweight, foldable keyboard from "supremery", that has the same idiotic layout: the shift key is far to the right, behind the arrow keys. There is a huge minus-key that looks just like it's made for shift. It's impossible to type tenfingered on that keyboard, so I'll return it.
Does anybody know a foldable keyboard where you can type on?



Haven't purchased it yet, but I am considering this one from Perixx.

https://www.amazon.com/Perixx-Bluetooth ... p_asin_lnk

Be aware as you read the reviews, as is typical for Amazon, they lumped the reviews for a few different products together. You want to be sure you are reading the ones for the latest keyboard, as earlier models had flaws (like the shift key being in the wrong place). Also, there is a keyboard specifically for iPad/iPhone (white one), and a different one for Windows (black one I think).

This excellent review discusses one customer's experience with a few of the Perixx models, including the latest one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-revi ... B00JXI94IE
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Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:51 pm Post

Not foldable but still extremely portable (I've put it in a jacket inside pocket): https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/14/logit ... long-term/.
There's a new red one available for $24 on Amazon US right now , and a black refurb there for $22.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:17 pm Post

I wish someone made a dvorak keyboard for people like me with hand injuries...if someone knows, please speak up.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:26 am Post

yosimiti wrote:I wish someone made a dvorak keyboard for people like me with hand injuries...if someone knows, please speak up.

Uh -- on Amazon, there's a Dvorak keys cover for the Apple Magic Keyboard. Would that help?

https://smile.amazon.com/KB-Covers-DV-M ... rds=dvorak
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:01 am Post

I wish I knew about this BEFORE I rewrote on my magic keyboard all the keys with a permanent marker! thanks for this.

Still, it's not ideal as I'd be typing on silicone, and not on a regular keyboard.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:15 pm Post

yosimiti wrote:I wish I knew about this BEFORE I rewrote on my magic keyboard all the keys with a permanent marker! thanks for this.

Still, it's not ideal as I'd be typing on silicone, and not on a regular keyboard.

:shock: ok, then. There are sets of Dvorak key cap stickers as well. Search for "Dvorak keyboard" on Amazon and you'll find them priced at $4.99 USD. I have no idea how the feel is, nor yet how well they would fit your Belkin but it's not a huge investment and wouldn't permanently change your keyboard.
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:33 pm Post

I figured out what the confusion was. On my country's amazon, there are no kb Dvorak covers; it's only in the American.

anyways it is all too late, as the permanent marker's ink is dried.

next time sir, next time...