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Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:48 pm Post

isy wrote:Hello,

since I'm doing this for the first time and English is not my native language, I was wondering if there is any good soul who is willing to proof read my chapter before the deadline ?

I'm doing this for the first time too, but I'm happy to help. I have reasonable French and Spanish, so I can empathise. It takes me hours to write a few hundred words in either.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:53 pm Post

Just a bit of culture to aid things along :wink:
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:00 pm Post

pigfender wrote:Nope - it's based on the sound. So, one would say:
- a European
- an FBI agent.

He meant because "literature" starts with a consonant. The same way it would be "a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent."
FBI is all well and good, but it tends to trip me up as well for less common initialisms because I expand them automatically as I'm read/writing them so the fact that the letter is pronounced with a vowel sound never crosses my mind.
The technicalities of that, I'm not positive of and don't feel like looking up just now, but my instinct is that you're probably right. It's not like the UK/US "h" that can vary based on the writer's pronunciation. "L&L" isn't SUPPOSED to be pronounced as "literature and latte," so it wouldn't be given the same indefinite article, even if the writer is silly and pronounces the full phrase while writing the abbreviation.

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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:18 pm Post

Edit for clarity...

Piggy!! Don’t you have work to do?

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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:23 pm Post

hjordisa wrote:
pigfender wrote:Nope - it's based on the sound. So, one would say:
- a European
- an FBI agent.

He meant because "literature" starts with a consonant. The same way it would be "a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent."
FBI is all well and good, but it tends to trip me up as well for less common initialisms because I expand them automatically as I'm read/writing them so the fact that the letter is pronounced with a vowel sound never crosses my mind.
The technicalities of that, I'm not positive of and don't feel like looking up just now, but my instinct is that you're probably right. It's not like the UK/US "h" that can vary based on the writer's pronunciation. "L&L" isn't SUPPOSED to be pronounced as "literature and latte," so it wouldn't be given the same indefinite article, even if the writer is silly and pronounces the full phrase while writing the abbreviation.


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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:54 pm Post

I resemble that closing remark.

And I do actually read it as “lit and lay” when I see L&L.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:59 pm Post

pigfender wrote:Okay - sign up is now CLOSED!
NOT.
LONG.
NOW.


And it's really real this time! :lol:
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:57 pm Post

hjordisa wrote:
pigfender wrote:Nope - it's based on the sound. So, one would say:
- a European
- an FBI agent.

He meant because "literature" starts with a consonant. The same way it would be "a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent."
FBI is all well and good, but it tends to trip me up as well for less common initialisms because I expand them automatically as I'm read/writing them so the fact that the letter is pronounced with a vowel sound never crosses my mind.
The technicalities of that, I'm not positive of and don't feel like looking up just now, but my instinct is that you're probably right. It's not like the UK/US "h" that can vary based on the writer's pronunciation. "L&L" isn't SUPPOSED to be pronounced as "literature and latte," so it wouldn't be given the same indefinite article, even if the writer is silly and pronounces the full phrase while writing the abbreviation.


From my experience, whether or not you use the sound of the initial or the expanded word is a function of whichever style guide you're working by. For a non-initialized word, pigfender is indeed correct (at least, I don't recall seeing any sources say otherwise).
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:59 pm Post

So.... An hour to go.

Nothin' to do now but wait until I can press send on all those emails in my drafts folder.



Ooo look! A beer!
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:26 pm Post

pigfender wrote:So.... An hour to go.

Nothin' to do now but wait until I can press send on all those emails in my drafts folder.



Ooo look! A beer!

Imagine how much different things would be if we had the "right to beer arms"...
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:54 pm Post

Anyone else smell bacon?
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:55 pm Post

Jaysen wrote:
pigfender wrote:So.... An hour to go.

Nothin' to do now but wait until I can press send on all those emails in my drafts folder.



Ooo look! A beer!

Imagine how much different things would be if we had the "right to beer arms"...

Like arms? Made of beer? How would I hold a beer with arms made of beer? Oh, yeah, I'd just drink my arms. But then I'd have no beer arms left, and no arms to hold more beer.

I don't think you've thought this through, Jaysen. :|
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:00 pm Post

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Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:00 pm Post

rdale wrote:
Jaysen wrote:
pigfender wrote:So.... An hour to go.

Nothin' to do now but wait until I can press send on all those emails in my drafts folder.



Ooo look! A beer!

Imagine how much different things would be if we had the "right to beer arms"...

Like arms? Made of beer? How would I hold a beer with arms made of beer? Oh, yeah, I'd just drink my arms. But then I'd have no beer arms left, and no arms to hold more beer.

I don't think you've thought this through, Jaysen. :|

I said "different" not "better".

Now, as a #2 type, none of my arms are bare. All have may different decorations and coverings.

:P
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:01 pm Post

pigfender wrote:InfMonk_3750 copy.jpg

OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO
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