Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:31 pm Post
Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:41 pm Post
David G. wrote:I have been writing using Nisus, a word processor. I am now trying to adjust to the Scrivener way of doing things. One thing that is bugging me is that, I used to be able to easily make adjustments to line spacing, lists, and indents using a pop out panel on the right side of the document.
Scrivener seems to be completely focused on the pull down menus on top. Unless I am missing something, I was hoping that since Scrivener has a right side information panel and several options to view things in that right panel (synopsis, document bookmarks, general metadata and keywords, snapshots, and comments and footnotes), that there might have been a formatting panel there as well.
I realize that Scrivener seems to be focused on its top menubar menus as my recent question on capitalization shows. Perhaps this comment will come to naught, but it really would be very nice to have such a formatting bar on the right side.
Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:48 pm Post
xiamenese wrote:Simple answer, no and there never will be. The nearest that you can get to it is to set up your styles and then you can float the styles panel (Format > Styles > Show Styles Panel). The inspector is there for other metadata, notes, snapshots etc. The text editing tools are all in the menus and menu-bars, many of them available through keyboard shortcuts.
Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:24 pm Post
Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:48 pm Post
Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:08 pm Post
Wed May 01, 2019 2:11 pm Post
KB wrote:Indeed - nearly everything that you can do in the sidebar of something like Pages can be done in the formatting bar that runs along the top of the editor just below the toolbar.
KB wrote:The sidebar in Pages and other word processors (such as Nisus) makes sense, because these apps are based on creating and formatting a single document, so all of the surrounding UI focusses on that. Scrivener's focus is not on formatting - although those tools are there - but on constructing a long text using synopses, outlines and such, and so the surrounding UI is directed at that.
Wed May 01, 2019 3:53 pm Post
David G. wrote:The point I am making is that for many, a visual representation of the choices that can be made all in a single place makes better sense than remembering which menu contained which choice, and in some cases, sub-choice.
Wed May 01, 2019 4:01 pm Post
Wed May 01, 2019 4:10 pm Post
brookter wrote:Finally, apologies if this is obvious, but the 'advanced' controls for line-spacing, tabs and so on are all available directly from the menus, so you can assign a shortcut to them for quick access.
Wed May 01, 2019 4:24 pm Post
lunk wrote:You don't really know that "many" would like a formatting pane in the Inspector, do you? You do, I don't, so we're equal numbers, right?
lunk wrote:As KB writes, you can have visual representation for many formatting options in the toolbar, which is customizable. Have you looked at that?
lunk wrote:And about formatting versus writing and losing your line of thought, maybe you should try not to bother with formatting while writing and focus on the text only? I come from decades of using Word, and Scrivener has helped me to focus on the content and not the appearance of the text.
Wed May 01, 2019 4:29 pm Post
brookter wrote: Do you have any other suggestions for ways in which users can help you?
Wed May 01, 2019 4:38 pm Post
Wed May 01, 2019 4:57 pm Post
kewms wrote:One of the primary goals of Scrivener's design is to allow writers to separate *writing* tasks from *formatting* tasks.
While it's true that Scrivener 3.1.2 includes much more sophisticated formatting capabilities than its predecessors, that underlying goal has not changed.
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