Keeping the sidebar updated when going to a linked document

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Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:39 am Post

@kungfiske I'm not sure what functionality you are looking for, but if I'm understanding you correctly, version 3 does what you are asking. See screenshot, where I have searched my whole project for the word "social". Search is much more complete and effective in version 3 because of all the regex goodness. Read the stuff in the manual about Collections.

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Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:04 am Post

@ kungfiske At the risk of overloading things, here is a screenshot of my Collections (basically they are Saved Searches, so you don't have to type out complex search criteria every time you search). In this example I have exploited regex so that one search looks for both "social constructionist" and "social constructionism" at the same time, and presents results for both in the same Collection. As you will see, you can also look for expressions where hyphenation between components is inconsistent, something which used to make searching more of a chore, as you sometimes had to do two searches to find all examples.

In my view, search is one of the best features of version 3 of Scrivener.

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Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:37 am Post

kungfiske wrote:Glad I found this conversation. For me, Scrivener 3 has been a step down in usability and organizing my thoughts.

I'm an academic and I use Scrivener mostly to organize my notes for any articles I read or for my ethnographic fieldwork. For my literature, I have my main Scrivener file, which is kind of my extended brain. I write notes or copy-paste sections from articles or books that I've read, so that I can quickly find or remember their main points. It's close to 1500 items as we speak.

With the old version, I would type in a keyword like "community" and have the binder neatly display all my notes that feature this word. It's a great way to organize your thinking prior to writing, to sort of see that "oh yeah, I forgot that article talked about community, too". With this type of work, it was essential that whenever I clicked an item the binder would also focus on that item. I could see what articles were next to it, which would again spark my imagination and help me make connections.

The current system has messed up my workflows. Navigating between items in the binder is not as intuitive, and I've noticed that since installing Scrivener 3 I'm not writing as many notes into the system as I used to.

So yes, I hope a compromise is coming. I know I'm not the only academic who does this type of thing with Scrivener.

edit. yes, I know this is an old topic. But I was forced to migrate from Scrivener 2 very recently.


I'm not really sure what you mean here, as nothing in this regard has changed. mbbntu has already put you on the right track - simply hit Shift-Cmd-F or click the search button in the toolbar to bring up the search field above the binder and everything works exactly as in Scrivener 2. The only difference is that the search bar is no longer in the toolbar by default; instead the toolbar shows the Quick Search bar, which is a navigation tool. You can customise the toolbar and add the old search field back there if you prefer it in the search bar rather than having to show it above the binder.

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Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:40 am Post

Thanks for the responses.

I know how the binder works and all that (had not explored Collections, though, thanks for the tip). My point was that I found the previous version's feature of focusing the sidebar on the document that was found during search to be much more intuitive than the current one.

The opt-cmd-R seems like an unnecessary extra step. Maybe it will become intuitive, but right now I feel like my workflows and muscle memory are both out of sync.

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Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:40 pm Post

Again, I'm not really sure what you are referencing, because nothing has changed here - nothing was focussed in the sidebar in v2 that isn't in v3. Perhaps you could clarify a little?

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