Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:03 pm Post
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Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:17 pm Post
Good tip, thanks. I could say it again, or I could shout it from the rooftops but visual cues to organization are vital to some of us. Making the page forward and page back chevrons look like actual buttons ar at least stand out is a part of this problem.AmberV wrote:If you lose your place, you can use the Opt-Cmd-R shortcut (View/Reveal in Binder menu command) to quickly locate the file in the sidebar. ... [snip] ... Compromises will arrive in the future.
Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:30 pm Post
Glad to see good tips on Scrivener, thanks. Unfortunately, this example shows a horizontal and hierarchical layout which is not visible on my Scrivener screen layout. And, even if it were, that is still a linear solution as opposed to a visual solution. The command option R is my best bet which as I just posted, "should" be simple enough to implement and to combine with a linked click or a forward and back click.Briar Kit wrote:Might help… https://briarkitesme.com/2014/11/24/whi ... ings-mode/
Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:59 pm Post
David G. wrote:I also find it confusing that the sidebar does not update with the page I have linked to.
Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:29 pm Post
This is just semantics. It has nothing to do with my point. I am speaking of visual cues which could or should accompany navigation. What the area is called and whether I mislabeled it or not is frankly not relevant to my point.lunk wrote:The reason the "sidebar" doesn't update and follow the editing window is that it isn't a sidebar. The thing to the left is the Binder, which you can choose to show or not, in the same way that you can choose to show the Inspector or not.
Negatory good buddy. My point is about seeing where you are in a document. It is about visual cues. As to the hierarchy, The structure you are working with is not as important as understanding where you are in the structure or that hierarchy at any given point in time. This is no more complicated then seeing where you are in a complex document at all times. I believe that my comments were clarified somewhat when I posted the following. It is as simple as having a visual page reference to tell you where you are at all times.lunk wrote: I guess part of the problem is that you perceive Scrivener to have a hierarchical order from left to right, with a sidebar to the left showing the structure, the middle part showing only what you have selected in the sidebar, and the inspector to the right showing only what you have selected in the middle part .
David G. wrote:The way scrivener does this now makes about as much sense as putting in a setting for a destination with your Garmin or other GPS device. Then, when you arrive at your destination the GPS device wont show your new location, only a fresh GPS map that shows only your starting point - no route is visible and no destination is visible, just where you started from on the map. If you want to see where you are now in relation to the context of your document, good luck. You will have to fiddle with some other keys (command-option-R) to find out where you have arrived at.
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Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:05 pm Post
As I just tested it, this works great. You can test it yourself. Put a link (surrounded by double brackets) to a text or folder that is buried somewhere. Click that link. Now hit command-option-R and it shows that file.lunk wrote:It's not semantics. How would you show 'where you are' in Scrivenings mode when you have selected several sub-documents that are not anywhere near each other in the Binder, maybe not even on the same hierarchical level?.
Thanks. For the time being it is better to learn the interface I am trying to lean. Scrivener has so much more to offer. I understand this. But my argument for keeping a visual reference of where I am is meant to suggest that, before thinking about opening other windows and other views, I need to learn to navigate well in the one I am using.kewms wrote:Note that you can also open a clicked link in a variety of different places, not just the main editor. See Scrivener -> Preferences -> Navigation for the relevant options. So, for example, you could leave the main editor exactly where it is and open the linked document in a floating Quick Reference pane. Katherine
I am looking forward to learning more about the compromises that are being hinted about.AmberV wrote:In short, there are conflicting opinions on what is the best approach, with the design always strongly sided in favor of respecting the binder as a workspace rather than a status tool with little user control over it. Once again though, compromises are coming.
Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:19 pm Post
David G. wrote:There is disagreement? I am really scratching my head as to why? This already happens wth a certain combination of keys. All I am suggesting is that it should happen without having to use the key combination. Not sure why this is causing a debate? Only reason I can think of is that some people don't want to loose their place where they are working. In that case why not make this feature on/off switchable in the preferences?
Why not put an option in preferences to reveal followed links in Binder so that those who don't like this can turn it off? Now that I know that it is there and I know the key stroke, I will use this all the time. I guess it just seems sort of silly that it isn't doing this automatically.
Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:41 am Post
David G. wrote:As I just tested it, this works great. You can test it yourself.lunk wrote: How would you show 'where you are' in Scrivenings mode when you have selected several sub-documents that are not anywhere near each other in the Binder, maybe not even on the same hierarchical level?.
Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:10 am Post
Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:53 am Post
lunk wrote:Is it possible to do the opposite?
Split screen. Select multiple documents to create a scrivening in the top half, and then temporarily move focus to the lower half to show something, and still see the initial multi-selection made for the top half when returning focus to the top?
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