Stacks not, er, stacking?

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Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:43 pm Post

Hi Keith,

Just taking Scapple for a test drive so I'm not entirely sure if I'm not doing it right, but...

It I write a note and then hit CMD+Enter to create a new note stacked below it, if I move the original note the stacked note doesn't move with it.

Is this intended behaviour?

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Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:43 pm Post

Hi Mark,

Yes, that's intended behaviour. You can drag notes out of stacks easily like that. To move them, you still have to select them all (or use the shortcut for selecting the stack).

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Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:40 pm Post

KB wrote:Yes, that's intended behaviour. You can drag notes out of stacks easily like that. To move them, you still have to select them all (or use the shortcut for selecting the stack).


Oh, ok. It's just that in the QuickStart Guide for stacks it says:

QuickStart Guide wrote:When notes are stacked, their vertical positions will automatically be adjusted when notes above them in the stack are edited or moved.


I was under the impression from that line that they should move if the note above is moved, or have I misread that in my every-increasing old-age? (More than likely)

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Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:39 pm Post

Hmm, no I agree that could be read to mean what you thought. The phrase is meant to describe how you can move a stacked item out of the list, and the remaining stacked items below it will shift vertically upward to fill in the gap the moved note created---in the same way that deleting a paragraph in a word processor would cause the text below it to shift upward to occupy the space the paragraph once used.
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:56 pm Post

AmberV wrote:Hmm, no I agree that could be read to mean what you thought.


Aha! I Knew I couldn't be wrong three times in a row as the universe would have ended.

AmberV wrote:The phrase is meant to describe how you can move a stacked item out of the list, and the remaining stacked items below it will shift vertically upward to fill in the gap the moved note created---in the same way that deleting a paragraph in a word processor would cause the text below it to shift upward to occupy the space the paragraph once used.


Oh I seeeeeeeeeeeeee. I understand now. Yes, THAT definitely works as expected. Gotcha. Perhaps the bug is in the documentation then in that it could perhaps be re-written to cater for idiots. Namely, me.

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Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:04 pm Post

AmberV wrote:Hmm, no I agree that could be read to mean what you thought. The phrase is meant to describe how you can move a stacked item out of the list, and the remaining stacked items below it will shift vertically upward to fill in the gap the moved note created---in the same way that deleting a paragraph in a word processor would cause the text below it to shift upward to occupy the space the paragraph once used.


But it says "vertically" adjusted and also says "when...edited or moved", so I'm not sure I really agree that this can be read to mean that they will move with the moved item. But, to keep you happy, I've edited to read:

When notes are stacked, their vertical positions will automatically be adjusted to maintain the stack when notes above them are edited or moved out of the stack.
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Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:43 pm Post

KB wrote:But it says "vertically" adjusted and also says "when...edited or moved", so I'm not sure I really agree that this can be read to mean that they will move with the moved item.


Yes, I think you're right. However, I think my initial error stemmed from the fact that I didn't really grasp the concept of what a "stack" was in the first place. I think if I'd have read the manual first instead of the QuickStart Guide I would have been ok since it clearly states in the actual manual that stacks are "lists" and just that one word would have helped immensely - but to be fair the manual goes on to describe what stacks are perfectly but the QuickStart Guide really only brushes over it.

KB wrote:But, to keep you happy, I've edited to read...


I think the description you had already in the QuickStart Guide is accurate - providing the user actually knows what a stack is in the first place. Which I didn't. If that makes sense.

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Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:27 am Post

The "but to keep you happy" was aimed at Ioa, by the way; he's getting his own back because I've just overhauled all of the preferences in Scrivener and so he has to rewrite that whole section of the manual after only just finishing the Scapple manual. :D
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Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:14 am Post

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