Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:47 pm Post
Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:57 pm Post
KB wrote:Heh, the whole thing is moot anyway, as I've completely rewritten the whole "What is Scapple?" section.
Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:06 pm Post
Mac wrote:And it was an interesting exchange of views. I'm sure you'll be shocked to know that I don't agree about the vampires.
Come what may, I'll be buying Scapple and telling everyone I know to buy it.
Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:04 am Post
Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:09 am Post
xiamenese wrote:And I admit to a modicum of pride in having succeeded in stirring things a bit!
Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:43 pm Post
MimeticMouton wrote:xiamenese wrote:And I admit to a modicum of pride in having succeeded in stirring things a bit!
You're such a troublemaker! And I apologise for accusing you of blaming Americans for the needless prepositions (especially since it was Ioa's fault! ).
Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:29 pm Post
Dave and John burst through the open door just in time to witness Phil removing the lid from the milk.
Dave panted hard to catch his breath. 'Don't use the milk. I think it's been tampered with.'
John nodded furiously. 'And it's skimmed. I mean, what's the point of skimmed?'
Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:01 pm Post
pigfender wrote:I don't care what the grammar police have acquiesced to over the years, starting a sentence with "and" is grammatically incorrect. It is a conjunction; its use is to connect two elements of speech. If you feel the need to start a sentence with a conjunction, stop. Look slightly to the left. That full stop shouldn't be there. It should be an ellipsis instead.
The only exception I can think of that wouldn't cause me to think bad thoughts is where one person is finishing another person's sentence. Notice that they are still finishing someone else's sentence, not starting a new one.
Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:16 am Post
Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:40 am Post
Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:18 am Post
KB wrote:I disagree...
KB, kinda wrote:"And" can start a sentence in the right context.
KB, sorta wrote:It's like how you were taught as a kid that you couldn't start a sentence with "but", only to find the rule is nonsense, *but* (heh) it's still a good rule to be taught, because it makes sure you never do it unnecessar[ily]... and that's my final word on the matter.
dafu wrote:[extensive pause—far beyond ellipses]
Juddbert wrote:I... suppose that being grammatically incorrect is not necessarily being grammatically unacceptable. English, eh?
Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:00 am Post
Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:50 am Post
xiamenese wrote:On the other hand, I'm glad I didn't start the year before I did ... there was a guy in that year who insisted on sitting in on our lectures on the Development of Linguistics and showing off his "superior" knowledge. I would have hated having to do my whole course in his company!
In the revised version above (only punctuation altered) you can see you've not actually started a sentence with a conjunction at all. You've just written a long unwieldy sentence with lots of conjunctions... and then incorrectly put in full stops where more suitable punctuation is available.
R.L. Trask - from Mind the Gaffe (The Penguin Guide to Common Errors in English) wrote:and It is not wrong to begin a sentence with and. Often this can be quite effective. But use it sparingly: doing so too often will make your prose irritating.
In general, avoid beginning a sentence with and: its use is only justified when a very effective addition is desired or when an arresting accumulation is to be concluded.
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