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Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:44 pm
by mustafa
Hello,

i was using mindmeister as a mindmap service.
Is there any way to move my mindmeister mindmaps to scapple?

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:36 am
by gr
You can drop various kinds of files onto an open Scapple doc to import text and break it into separate notes on a delimiter you specify. See section 9.1 of the Scapple manual.

However, such import is just bringing in note text. It is not trying to recover tree structure as you would, presumably, be hoping for in this case.

I don’t know of a way to get a structurally intact mindmap imported into Scrivener. I would love to find out there is one, though!

Best,
gr

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:54 am
by kewms
Scapple is non-hierarchical. You can put notes wherever you want, but it has no concept of "child" or "parent" nodes.

Katherine

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:53 pm
by gr
True, but on the other hand, Scapple understands nodes and connections, and so it is unfortunate that it can’t import something with existing nodes and connections — such as the return delimited & tab structured outline text one can pull out of hierarchical mindmaps.

Katherine has a good point though. Because It is freeform, working in Scapple is very different than working in something like Mindmeister. It doesn’t assume any sort of tree structure, and you don’t get the kind of automatic node placement/shifting you are used to there. I use both mindmap software and Scapple, but find them useful for quite different purposes.

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:04 pm
by rdale
You can import some mind map formats into Scrivener, which is hierarchical though. And you can drag note cards between Scrivener and Scapple. Maybe try doing that with a blank Scrivener project and a blank Scapple project, and see how it goes?

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:25 pm
by gr
rdale wrote:You can import some mind map formats into Scrivener, which is hierarchical though.


How?

rdale wrote:And you can drag note cards between Scrivener and Scapple.


But, though the Binder of a project is itself hierarchically structured, when you drag the cards over you just get the nodes (cards), not any connections representing that structure.

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:49 pm
by kewms
gr wrote:
rdale wrote:You can import some mind map formats into Scrivener, which is hierarchical though.


How?


Some mind map tools export to OPML or Word, both of which Scrivener can import.

Katherine

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:12 am
by gr
kewms wrote:
gr wrote:
rdale wrote:You can import some mind map formats into Scrivener, which is hierarchical though.


How?


Some mind map tools export to OPML or Word, both of which Scrivener can import.

Katherine


Does it register/replicate the connections, though? No suggestion of this in the manual under Import.

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:54 pm
by kewms
What do you mean by "connections?"

If the mind map software's OPML export creates a hierarchical structure, then yes, Scrivener will replicate that. But if -- as in Scapple -- the "connections" are just lines on a diagram, with no semantic content, then Scrivener has no way of knowing what it should do with them.

Katherine

Re: Moving / importing from old mindmap service to scapple

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:03 am
by gr
Thanks. Yes, I do mean the tree structure of the incoming mindmap. So, that’s great.

I don’t remember if Mindmeister exports OPML, but that would then definitely give the OP a way.

gr