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Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:48 am
by gr
krastev wrote:
jg76 wrote:(Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but even if you write in MarkDown, the files still save as RTF. Correct?)

No. It's plain text.


I am surprised by this answer. I was pretty sure Scriv's internal file format for docs was rtf all the way. Surely this does not change just because you type things into a doc that accord with markdown conventions!

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:04 am
by kewms
krastev wrote:
jg76 wrote:(Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but even if you write in MarkDown, the files still save as RTF. Correct?)

No. It's plain text.


You are mistaken. Scrivener's native project format is RTF. It's possible to export the component files as .TXT, but the files that Scrivener itself sees are always RTF.

Katherine

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:32 pm
by krastev
gr wrote:
krastev wrote:
jg76 wrote:(Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but even if you write in MarkDown, the files still save as RTF. Correct?)

No. It's plain text.


I am surprised by this answer. I was pretty sure Scriv's internal file format for docs was rtf all the way. Surely this does not change just because you type things into a doc that accord with markdown conventions!

My mistake. I thought the question was about markdown in general, and not how Scrivener saves it.

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:02 am
by KelliJaeBaeli

My low-tech approach

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:36 am
by RHvdG
For what it's worth I'll share my low-tech approach here. Sometimes an integrated, technology-dependent, automated solution is not needed (I also add citations and references to my dissertation by hand, like people did for centuries).

In collaborating with my PhD supervisor, too, I found that simple and fool-proof is best for me (a certified fool). I'll compile my manuscript to PDF, write a note to my supervisor pointing out what parts I've been working on, and he will read those, adding comments using Adobe Acrobat Reader. He then sends me the edited PDF, that I will open alongside Scrivener. I'll walk through his comments one by one, making the necessary edits in the Scrivener files as I go.

This may not work for you, but it does for me.

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:42 pm
by Darksean
Hello, first post.
My collaborator and editrix actually bought this product for me with the hope I'd start writing again. I'd love to have a collaborative ability. In reading this it almost sounds like if she were to get the program as well we COULD collaborate? Is that true?

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:07 pm
by kewms
Simultaneous collaboration is not possible: only one person can edit a Scrivener project at once.

Serial collaboration is possible: either you can ensure that you aren't working on the project at the same time, or you can use the "import and merge" feature to re-integrate a revised project with the original version.

Katherine

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:11 pm
by Darksean
kewms wrote:Simultaneous collaboration is not possible: only one person can edit a Scrivener project at once.

Serial collaboration is possible: either you can ensure that you aren't working on the project at the same time, or you can use the "import and merge" feature to re-integrate a revised project with the original version.

Katherine


Katherine, thank you very much for replying.
I don't need simultaneous collaboration. Just need her to have access and edit. I am sorry for my ignorance, but I have a couple of follow up questions based on your reply:

1. Would she need the program to do this?
2. I believe my projects are stored on my computer. What do I do to send her what I want her to have?

Once she has any edits, then I use the "import and merge" function.

Thanks.

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:43 pm
by kewms
To edit a Scrivener project, she needs a copy of Scrivener, yes.

Use the File -> Backup -> Backup To command, and check the box to create a ZIP backup. You can send the resulting file via email or any other convenient method.

Katherine

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:16 pm
by AmberV
And to qualify that a little further, she would need Scrivener 3 for Mac. The necessary mechanism for detecting that a project is a copy of the original, and merging the changes, is only currently present in that version. The Windows beta does not yet properly protect that token and when you get the project back it will appear as a completely different project, with no merge option available.

Another thing worth mentioning is that if you don't edit while they have the project in hand, you don't need to merge. Just replace your copy with the one they send to you—merging will be an unnecessary complication. Where merging becomes useful is when you both edit in parallel. So while you cannot both open the same project file simultaneously off of a file share, or both be synchronishing changes to the same stored copy (like a cloud share), you can both be working at once. Just observe simple common sense practices of not working on the same exact things and you'll avoid having to sort out conflicted edits later (i.e. you take one chapter, she takes another, and you'll be fine).

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:41 pm
by xiamenese
AmberV wrote:And to qualify that a little further, she would need Scrivener 3 for Mac. The necessary mechanism for detecting that a project is a copy of the original, and merging the changes, is only currently present in that version. The Windows beta does not yet properly protect that token and when you get the project back it will appear as a completely different project, with no merge option available.

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I can confirm that. I'd just been chatting to my Windows Beta using collaborator, who told me she was on the way to the airport to catch a flight … she didn’t tell me that she was planning to work on our project, offline during the flight. So I took the opportunity to go through any comments and issues she had raised.

In the evening after she had settled in to her accommodation, she got in touch to say that she had wanted to do some more work on it, but because we had both worked separately on the same chapter, there was a conflict and that she was unable to open the project as a result.

I could open the project and do the necessary reconciliation in a couple of minutes on my Mac.

Mark

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:58 am
by Darksean
Thank you Katherine, Amber, and Mark.

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:18 pm
by wietse
JackSchaeffer wrote:I purchased Scrivener nearly three years ago because I believed all the hype, and while I've made five heartfelt runs at implementing the software into my writing routine, I have yet to make it work for one simple reason - I can't collaborate with my editors.


Has anyone tried this option to sync with Draft yet? https://www.cultofmac.com/291161/draft-scrivener-collaborative-writing/

Re: Collaborating With Scrivener

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:23 pm
by JimRac
wietse,

Thanks for posting your question. Never even heard of Draft before, but it looks interesting! I'll be giving it a try...

Best,
Jim