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Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:22 pm Post

I really like that robot pic you have Keith of that little Scrivener robot in your avatar pic. Are there any plans to commercialize it to the masses? I'd buy one. It'd be like bb-8 from star wars....only with scrivener....

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Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:17 pm Post

I don't think Disney would take kindly to L&L using the imagery from The Black Hole to make money... http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/V.I.N.CENT And don't even bring up parody; the Mouse could kill seven L&Ls with a single blow*.

I imagine that individually and as a company, L&L are also especially conscientious about copyright, being dependent upon people who produce intellectual property for both fun and profit.

All that aside; have you seen that old movie? I did as a kid, and Maximillian scared the bejesus out of me. I haven't seen it recently, for fear that my adult self will find the movie wanting.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_Little_Tailor
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:46 pm Post

I have not seen the movie; well, you learn something every day.

Scrivener should have its own robot. Or a mascot of some kind. And not rub off Disney. Remember the MS clip helper? Yeah, don't groan, but it'd be neat if someone made something for scrivener. If I had any talent in the visual domain, I would set aside some time to do it. Alas, I don't.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:03 pm Post

yosimiti wrote:I have not seen the movie; well, you learn something every day.

Scrivener should have its own robot. Or a mascot of some kind. And not rub off Disney. Remember the MS clip helper? Yeah, don't groan, but it'd be neat if someone made something for scrivener. If I had any talent in the visual domain, I would set aside some time to do it. Alas, I don't.


Maybe it's just me, but I feel that statements of the type "Scrivener/L&L *should*..." really need to be made by KB and the L&L crew. Coming from users such as you and me (and yes, I have been very guilty of this in the past!), it smacks of entitlement.
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:25 pm Post

Sorry, I shouldn't have demanded like that. Still, I offer my comments as food for thought. Scrivener, as of yet, has no mascot, no robot...and it'd be neat if it did.
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:28 pm Post

Does every program/application need a mascot? L&L seem to be making some unified branding changes...
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:46 pm Post

Any good one should.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:48 pm Post

oi...I used that word again 'should' sorry...

I guess I thought of this being a fun discussion, is all. But my interest is diminishing as I write this, so I'm just going to let this one go.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:46 pm Post

devinganger wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I feel that statements of the type "Scrivener/L&L *should*..." really need to be made by KB and the L&L crew. Coming from users such as you and me (and yes, I have been very guilty of this in the past!), it smacks of entitlement.


In addition to whether or not those users are also customers, I think the question of entitlement depends on what follows the *should* -- wouldn't you agree?

For example:

"Scrivener/L&L *should* ... have a robot." = fun
"Scrivener/L&L *should* ... do my taxes." = entitlement

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Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:22 am Post

Before I place my pre-order, I just want to know what robot does if I put it into Scrivenings mode.

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Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:21 am Post

markfasano wrote:
devinganger wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I feel that statements of the type "Scrivener/L&L *should*..." really need to be made by KB and the L&L crew. Coming from users such as you and me (and yes, I have been very guilty of this in the past!), it smacks of entitlement.


In addition to whether or not those users are also customers, I think the question of entitlement depends on what follows the *should* -- wouldn't you agree?

For example:

"Scrivener/L&L *should* ... have a robot." = fun
"Scrivener/L&L *should* ... do my taxes." = entitlement


Nope, I don't agree at all. "Should" is a loaded word that transforms the subject's expectations into the object's obligations. I don't find that fun -- "fun" and "joking" and "sarcastic" in a textual medium are all too often clever, and as SF novelist John Scalzi says, "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole.'" In spite of my own personal history of miscommunication here in the forums, I try to be clear about communications.

I find that:

"I *expect* that Scrivener would allow me to..."

works a lot better -- it clearly identifies my expectations, which makes it easier for others to help educate me when my expectations are not in line with reality.
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Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:27 am Post

bro, I got it man. chill.

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Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:43 pm Post

Hmm, a robot mascot? Here are some ideas--all definitely 100% original and my own creations.

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Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:29 pm Post

wow, pretty good Keith. your quite the artist. Although, a few of them are from cinema. Wall-E, Dr Who, and Transformers certainly. The robot mascot has to be original, in my opinion.

I'll post something up in a couple days.

Everyone else, feel free to share your thoughts. :)

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Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:40 pm Post

I quite like the Robot Maria ... er, female robot you created there, Keith! :D