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I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:16 pm
by Lionside
I've spent hours trying to figure this out, and eventually made my way to the forum here, and I literally broke down and wept When I found the following on the Differences between Windows and Mac page


  • No support for custom outliner columns in the Windows version (that is, custom meta-data that can be added as custom columns to the outliner). Thus "Custom Meta-Data" is not available in the inspector, either.
  • Related: No "Custom Meta-Data" pane in the Project > Meta-Data Settings pane in the Windows version. (This is no "Project Properties" pane available here, either.)
  • The outliner is not sortable in the Windows version.

...Why? I... Everything. Everything about Scrivener was perfect for everything I needed. After so long searching for a program that would do what I needed, I was so excited, and began putting things in, and then... It's useless. That's such an important feature to me that I... I can't make use of it for anything... I'm a grown man, and I broke down and wept. I can't afford a Mac. I can't afford the time it would take to learn the Mac OS even if I could...

So close, yet so far... Water water, everywhere, and not a drop to drink...

Please. Please add this.

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:24 pm
by pigfender
Hyperbole aside, don't worry they will add it. It's just a matter of time.

In the meantime, ask yourself "what would Denzel do?"
(he'd man up and get on with it, BTW)

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:41 am
by KB
It's hardly useless. The Mac version of Scrivener existed without any of these features for several years, and many novels, theses and screenplays were written using it and published. Anyway, as mentioned in the forum rules, there is no need to post requests for Windows features that already exist in the Mac version, as they are all being implemented anyway.

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:11 pm
by pigfender
KB wrote:It's hardly useless.

Is KB agreeing with Lionside, or disagreeing?
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Depends if he's archaic or not, I guess.

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:49 pm
by morvenwestfield
Glad to hear it's one of the Mac features that will eventually be added to Windows!

In my current book project, I have some scenes that are happening concurrent with others, and some plot points that rely on two different parties doing two different things and not realizing they will end up in the same place soon. To be able to see when everything is happening, I'm using the Label meta-data. (I changed the description of the label to When.)

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:27 am
by Lionside
pigfender wrote:
KB wrote:It's hardly useless.

Is KB agreeing with Lionside, or disagreeing?
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Depends if he's archaic or not, I guess.


It seems there is a newer sense of the word which hasn't found its way into the dictionaries yet, meaning, almost, "Not at all," connotating a mocking response to a previous use of the word. An important connotation I think, but hard to put into a dictionary. :)

morvenwestfield wrote:Glad to hear it's one of the Mac features that will eventually be added to Windows!

In my current book project, I have some scenes that are happening concurrent with others, and some plot points that rely on two different parties doing two different things and not realizing they will end up in the same place soon. To be able to see when everything is happening, I'm using the Label meta-data. (I changed the description of the label to When.)


It's incredibly important for me to be able to re-arrange based on date, if for no other reason than the fact that it's overwhelmingly valuable to me to read what I've written over time to see how I've changed.

Currently, I've settled on using Freeplane (A mindmapping software, which can integrate with Windows folder structure), and windows folders for arranging, sorting, and searching, and Markdown Pad 2 for my actual writing.

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:15 pm
by AmberV
An important connotation I think, but hard to put into a dictionary.


Hardly.

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:48 pm
by Lionside
I saw the newest update to Windows, and was eager, downright excited to see if Outliner had become sortable...

And then horribly let down to see that it wasn't.

:cry:

Any word on when the NEXT version might be coming out, and whether this feature will be in that one?

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:40 pm
by KB
Sorting in the outliner will be part of the next *major* iteration of Scrivener for Windows, which is planned (but not guaranteed) for some time in 2015.

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:54 am
by pigfender
this is how it starts

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:39 am
by AmberV
pigfender wrote:this is how it starts


Literally?

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:07 pm
by pigfender
Haft'n me neg-thoughtclue re Ioa saidwas has trueness. Metasimil en extremis, saidwas. Multimind concurrence re thoughtclue. Nextthing explosion for Ioaform.

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:34 pm
by Jaysen
pigfender wrote:Haft'n me neg-thoughtclue re Ioa saidwas has trueness. Metasimil en extremis, saidwas. Multimind concurrence re thoughtclue. Nextthing explosion for Ioaform.

--> ?

pigfender wrote:this is how it starts


you'd think he'd learn

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:08 pm
by pigfender
I've tried distraction but... I fear it's too late.

<sigh>

Re: I literally WEPT when I discovered this feature was missing

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:31 pm
by xiamenese
So now you’re going for uglification?