Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:11 pm Post
Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:23 pm Post
AmberV wrote:Keith has already expressed how this isn't really in the scope of the application's design. There are plenty of online front-ends to the Flesch-Kincaid calculator (and others) that can be used for free, it doesn't really make sense to duplicate that in the software when it is already so easy to do elsewhere.
Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:18 pm Post
Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:28 pm Post
Storyman wrote:you have overlooked the more salient points to be made on the issue.
Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:46 pm Post
PJS wrote:Storyman wrote:you have overlooked the more salient points to be made on the issue.
Doesn’t it just piss you off when developers take a proprietary attitude toward their software? I mean, all they do is design, code, test, invest, plan, revise and repair, promote, sell, support, maintain, upgrade, and generally baby-sit the thing. A lot of nerve, thinking they get to decide what goes in and what does not.
Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:13 am Post
Storyman wrote:I all asked for was consideration of the idea.
Storyman wrote:A better response would have been to ask what benefit would be gained from inclusion of the idea rather than making an all-knowing judgement.
Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:31 pm Post
Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:28 pm Post
Storyman wrote:As creative writers, I didn't expect such a rigid and contentious response. I expected inquisitive minds, not arthritic ones.
that pushed people in the wrong direction.despite your strong and cogent argument...
would have been better received.okay, thanks. i just wanted to raise it again as it,s something i,d find useful. can anyone suggest a site that is easy to use for this...
Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:14 pm Post
Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:42 pm Post
Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:48 pm Post
Storyman wrote:What is bizarre is that no one is commenting directly on the issue of the pros/cons of reading level stats.
Storyman wrote:At issue is if David wants to write a little code that will count the occurrence of 'e' in a document and a little computation using the number of words. That's it.
Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:01 pm Post
Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:30 am Post
1. There are multiple Reading Level calculation formulae/algorithms/statistical models; which one gets implemented?
2. Corollary: Consider that if two requests are enough to spur implementation, then the developer would have to seriously consider all of them.
3. Also, readability seems like a logical extension to reading level, and could be argued with the same enthusiasm. Should Keith & Lee implement those too?
4. There are issues getting computers to recognize abbreviations and other non-terminal punctuation as such (first-word auto-capitalization in those cases can't be easily programmed around); Therefore implementing any algorithm that counts sentences will never be perfect.
5. There is some debate as to the value of readability statistics, whereas it is extremely common for there to be either character or word count constraints on submissions, so the implicit argument that the currently available stats are equally useful/useless to readability stats sounds churlish to me.
6. Even the simplest feature takes far more work than it seems. Your feature request will take time away from other development efforts by the individuals who work on each of the versions of Scrivener (Mac has 1*, Windows has 1.5, iOS has 1... )
* 1/2 if you count Scapple as equal to Scrivener in development effort, which it may be as Keith approaches the official release of this new program.
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