Who want a Linux release version?

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Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:15 pm Post

Jaysen wrote:I think he was thinking of the stoned where folks throw rocks at you though.

That's very cruel of you :cry:
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:24 pm Post

vic-k wrote:
Jaysen wrote:I think he was thinking of the stoned where folks throw rocks at you though.

That's very cruel of you :cry:

But is it wrong?
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:35 pm Post

YEAH!!
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:49 pm Post

NSFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjibEkDoXQc (Not really a response. I can't help myself when someone asks, "Was I wrong?")

One of the best movies, ever.
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Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:52 am Post

Hi, to all of you,

I would like to buy Scrivener for Linux ... I would never buy a copy for Windows neither for Mac. It's some years I've been waiting for it, but ...
I would rather prefer to buy another software less efficient less fast less organized , damn it when it doesn't work but never never buy one of that I mentioned.
Just to let you know .. I had to devices ... one running under windows and onther one running under Os ... I asked Marco, a friend of mine that drives lorries ... to smash my two devices under a very havy lorry ... after that I saw this ... I began to sleep at the night.
I thank God that Linux has let me forget Windows and Mac ... and I have never wanted to install wine on my previus version of Ubuntu let alone my recent Mint 17.2.
To tell you the truth I can't understand why L&L have made the decision to dismiss Scrivener Linux version, perhap the BIG have made pression to kill a beautiful baby ...
Take care of yourself ... the end of the year isn't far but the time left can let the events to take two possible directions ...1) L&L will come back on their decision (at least they can live the actual software without expiring on the first of January 2016 ... 2) we have time to evaluate some different software... A third one, but ??? an open source in the world of Linux that is growing more and more.
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:02 pm Post

happydemic wrote:I'm a bit confused by Gregladen's point about treating scenes as files. Isn't this already the case (in /Files/Docs)? The scenes don't have friendly names, and of course they're in .rtf. Personally I wouldn't want to edit them in vi, but I believe there's an .rtf plugin for vim if that's your bag.


Yes, they are, so this should be easy. I would like to see a: names be non arbitrary, b: the option to have only text (and within that use markdown, which the Scrivener editor would interpret), and c: locking related issues be addressed if any.

There is a way to define a project as one explicitly rather than implicitly made up of files. That may only apply to or be needed on Mac, though. Not sure.

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Gregladen wrote:
happydemic wrote:I'm a bit confused by Gregladen's point about treating scenes as files. Isn't this already the case (in /Files/Docs)? The scenes don't have friendly names, and of course they're in .rtf.

Yes, they are, so this should be easy. I would like to see a: names be non arbitrary, b: the option to have only text (and within that use markdown, which the Scrivener editor would interpret), and c: locking related issues be addressed if any.

Other people edit like this too. This must have come up before - if L&L haven't implemented friendly .rtf names I expect they have a reason.

Gregladen wrote:There is a way to define a project as one explicitly rather than implicitly made up of files. That may only apply to or be needed on Mac, though. Not sure.

Indeed, this is only an issue on a Mac. Projects appear as folders on Linux & Windows.

I suppose the neatest solution to both issues would be to have an option on the 'sync with external' setting to allow syncing the rtfs only as an explicit folder where the section title creates the .rtf name. Syncing to a separate folder might be preferable to changing the file names within the project folder, since it would discourage accidental editing of the core .scriv files while editing the rtfs in Multimarkdown or vim or WordGrinder or whatever else. It would also avoid any locking/improper exit issues.

That would be quite a big enhancement though.

As for asking Scrivener to store files in Markdown (as opposed to importing and exporting it), I wouldn't hold your breath - there is a whole ecosystem of Scrivener/Markdown users and I think Scrivener is well aware of them and is supporting them just the way they want. Perhaps you're doing this already, but you can write in Markdown syntax in Scrivener (though you'll need to fiddle a little in order to preview the output), use a command line editor to tinker with the .rtf files as you feel inclined, and then use the 'Compile for MultiMarkDown -> HTML' feature in Scrivener to output the Markdown as html when you've finished.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:00 am Post

I would also pay for a Linux version. At the moment I have a paid Windows version and the Linux beta and I move projects between them. I prefer writing on my little Linux netbook but I like the full sized Windows screen when it comes to organising things. So I tend to value the Linux version for the basic things that I can do and so far the bugs haven't hurt me. I would be all sorts of devastated if there were no Linux version though.

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Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:36 pm Post

For those following this thread who are still worried about the release of another Linux beta before the end of the year (although, why you would be is beyond me)... KB recently posted in the Mac Feedback section about updating the Scrivener file format in order to accommodate the eventual release of the iOS version. He confirmed that a Linux beta will be released with the new format.

You can read the full thread and background to the discussion, here.
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Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:59 pm Post

For those following this thread who are still worried about the release of another Linux beta before the end of the year (although, why you would be is beyond me)...


Perhaps because there's been no mention of an update or extension of the expiration for more than a year, now? While the comments from KB are welcome and affirming, they were almost as an aside while discussing a major revision to Scrivener file formats going forward.

Those who are concerned about the major freeway pileup and carnage that is the current Windows 10 "upgrade" situation (including myself) are seriously jumping to Linux, which means that Scrivener for Linux is being watched with increasing nervous eyes. (No,
Sparky, no news is rarely good news! In the absence of confirmation, folks tend to get fidgety and begin to supply their own answers -- rightly or wrongly.

(And no, the fact that WINE on Linux is a useful tool does not mean that it's a totally satisfactory substitute for a native Scrivener for Linux package. Sorry about that.)

So ... KB's mention of a coming Scrivenver for Linux update is HUGELY welcome! Thanks much for that.
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Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:17 am Post

Graybyrd wrote:
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So ... KB's mention of a coming Scrivenver for Linux update is HUGELY welcome! Thanks much for that.


yes hugely welcome!

now how about a comment and status update from the developer of the windows/linux version? :?:

i bought scriv for windows years ago to support the development of a linux version. i still use that on windows, and wait patiently. wine is an abomination and no substitute for a native linux version.

i realise there have never been any guarantees, but it sure will be a huge shame if it's never going to happen. :|

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Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:27 pm Post

Eh, KB is above LAP and Tiho in the L&L hierarchy. :) Not weird to not hear from LAP or Tiho for long stretches of time. It all depends on whether or not they let them out to get sunshine. :mrgreen:
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:16 am Post

pigfender wrote:For those following this thread who are still worried about the release of another Linux beta before the end of the year (although, why you would be is beyond me)... KB recently posted in the Mac Feedback section about updating the Scrivener file format in order to accommodate the eventual release of the iOS version. He confirmed that a Linux beta will be released with the new format.


Thanks for keeping us informed!

I think part of the reason for a certain level of anxiety is the fact that the Linux release is termed a 'beta'. A beta is usually a testing release which is under development and which either goes to full release or gets abandoned.

At least at the moment, the Linux release is not really a beta but an unsupported, free release with no bugfixes and minimal development beyond cross-platform compatibility. That is very gracious of L&L and works well for this user.

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Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:56 pm Post

happydemic wrote:At least at the moment, the Linux release is not really a beta but an unsupported, free release with no bugfixes and minimal development beyond cross-platform compatibility. That is very gracious of L&L and works well for this user.

I don't think the above is entirely accurate. There have been bug fixes for the linux platform. But the L&L position has been "it is not our priority". And as stated by KB and Lee, the Linux version is keeping up with the Windows version feature set at major points.
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:38 pm Post

Jaysen wrote:I don't think the above is entirely accurate. There have been bug fixes for the linux platform. But the L&L position has been "it is not our priority". And as stated by KB and Lee, the Linux version is keeping up with the Windows version feature set at major points.


Scrivener released on Steam would mean I'd get absolutely nothing done. Then again we could have badges for things like "managed to write 200 words, deleted them, and got a drink." "Tried writing like Hemingway." Or: "Got another drink to try to brainstorm what I should be writing."
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