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Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:51 pm Post

Jaysen wrote:
Eddy wrote:http://xkcd.com/386/
There is an XKCD for everything isn't there :-)

I don't recall anything regarding flagellated equines.

I think you speak the truth - there is one containing Death and a horse (http://xkcd.com/788/), but that certainly doesn't qualify :|

However, it is also true that there is a subtle distinction between a comic for everything and a comic that contains everything so on that premise at least, I shall stand by my original assertion :)

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Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:51 am Post

Downloaded the newest exe and the nanofile today to play around. And I noticed the forms...in the word processor.

Please excuse me while I have slight seizure:
Gah, my graphic designer instinct went squitch. Forms shouldn't be in a word processor without proper form elements.
/end seizure
K I feel better now. lol

For some real feed back...the gear button at the bottom of the screen (in the tree view and document view) seems to lack a tool tip. However the gear button just repeats the context menu (right click menu). This seems a little redundant as right clicking is a pretty normal thing in Windows. Either way should I submit the missing tool tip as a bug?

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Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:02 am Post

Eddy wrote:
Jaysen wrote:
Eddy wrote:http://xkcd.com/386/
There is an XKCD for everything isn't there :-)

I don't recall anything regarding flagellated equines.

I think you speak the truth - there is one containing Death and a horse (http://xkcd.com/788/), but that certainly doesn't qualify :|

However, it is also true that there is a subtle distinction between a comic for everything and a comic that contains everything so on that premise at least, I shall stand by my original assertion :)

Eddy

So which one would you propose for flagellated or even flagellating moribund equines?
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Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:19 am Post

Tirjasdyn wrote:Gah, my graphic designer instinct went squitch. Forms shouldn't be in a word processor without proper form elements.


Forms? What forms? And what are proper form elements? Visually?
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Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:07 pm Post

Eddy wrote:http://xkcd.com/386/

There is an XKCD for everything isn't there :-)

Eddy


Oh great. Now I'm going to have to read all of these.

This is just like the time I lost three days of my life reading http://www.alienlovespredator.com

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Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:18 pm Post

Oh, I lost days to http://www.questionablecontent.net as well. Thing is, just like ALP it's got a storyline of sorts so you kinda have to start reading at number 1 :-)

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Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:27 pm Post

Eddy wrote:Oh, I lost days to http://www.questionablecontent.net as well. Thing is, just like ALP it's got a storyline of sorts so you kinda have to start reading at number 1 :-)

Eddy


You see this is exactly what I'm talking about. Now I'm on number 7 out of 1784 with seven years worth of posts to read. I'm NEVER going to get any writing done.

Still, those that have read my stuff may see that as a blessing.

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Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:32 pm Post

Tirjasdyn wrote:Downloaded the newest exe and the nanofile today to play around. And I noticed the forms...in the word processor.

Please excuse me while I have slight seizure:
Gah, my graphic designer instinct went squitch. Forms shouldn't be in a word processor without proper form elements.
/end seizure
K I feel better now. lol

For some real feed back...the gear button at the bottom of the screen (in the tree view and document view) seems to lack a tool tip. However the gear button just repeats the context menu (right click menu). This seems a little redundant as right clicking is a pretty normal thing in Windows. Either way should I submit the missing tool tip as a bug?


Tirjasdyn: Yes, please report it. Lee can then have a look when he searches through the bug forums. It's going to get a bit lost on this thread. Thanks!
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Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:56 pm Post

Jaysen wrote:
Eddy wrote:
Jaysen wrote:I don't recall anything regarding flagellated equines.

I think you speak the truth - there is one containing Death and a horse (http://xkcd.com/788/), but that certainly doesn't qualify :|

However, it is also true that there is a subtle distinction between a comic for everything and a comic that contains everything so on that premise at least, I shall stand by my original assertion :)

Eddy

So which one would you propose for flagellated or even flagellating moribund equines?

Well... http://www.xkcd.com/651/ did seem vaguely applicable. Not in that it illustrates the activity per-se, but the protagonist in the piece appears to be making good use of his stick in a figurative sense, given the intransigent reputation so widely apportioned to the group to which the antagonist belongs :)

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Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:03 pm Post

Eddy wrote:
Jaysen wrote:So which one would you propose for flagellated or even flagellating moribund equines?

Well... http://www.xkcd.com/651/ did seem vaguely applicable. Not in that it illustrates the activity per-se, but the protagonist in the piece appears to be making good use of his stick in a figurative sense, given the intransigent reputation so widely apportioned to the group to which the antagonist belongs :)

Eddy

I think that might be a bit inverted. In this particular example we are looking at a team of horses, one of which is about to get … well … beaten.
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Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:54 am Post

I think there will be endless Windows people (of which I am one) coming here and sayng they are underwhelmed. Personally, I think this might be down to Scrivener being like an expensive simple-looking car. At first you can't quite see what makes it so great, but the real benefits are under the hood.

Scrivener has so much more in it than is apprarent on first look. For the Windows people out there, the tutotial is essential! Us Windows users are used to everything being shoved in our faces. Scrivener doesn't do that (does Mac OS?), and therefore you need to be shown the features, or you need to spend quite a bit of time finding them.

I think it is very clear why MAC users have been raving about this. I will be using it for this year's Nano, simply because I can not think of a reason not to. Beta is fine for me, just remember to save regularly. I will probably export quite a lot as well, just in case.

Ywriter is great is you want to follow that format. Personally, for me it was too much clicking around, bit too clucnky, and I spent too long messing around with the final export. Ror example, after Scrivener, having to double click on a scene to edit it will be something I won't want to do.

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Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:07 pm Post

pigfender wrote:
Eddy wrote:http://xkcd.com/386/

There is an XKCD for everything isn't there :-)

Eddy


Oh great. Now I'm going to have to read all of these.

This is just like the time I lost three days of my life reading http://www.alienlovespredator.com

PF


I can report I have just finished reading XKCD.com and can now resume normal service.

Hey! Why is there someone else sitting in my desk at work?
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:38 am Post

http://xkcd.com/224/

That's got to be one of my favorites, too.
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:16 am Post

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Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:45 pm Post

Underwhelmed? Harsh and unwarranted comment, in my opinion. Personally, I've had completely the opposite reaction. Sure, there are bugs. What do you expect? It IS a beta after all, and, as such, I think it is VERY impressive, shows lots of potential, and I can't wait for the real deal when the first proper version is released.

I'm jumping for joy, to be honest. I've been praying for this for years, that someone, anyone, would port Scrivener to the Windows platform. After years of using Windows writing programs - some of them VERY good, some that I actually like quite a bit, but none of them totally suiting my needs - it seems that at last The One has arrived on Windows to save my bacon, and make my writing life run much more smoothly. Already, after only a short time using the beta, I've decided that this software will trump all the others, as far as my own writing needs are concerned.

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