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Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:46 pm
by Jaysen
garpu:

I agree, but I also disagree. It isn't the computers or OS or software that suck, it is the design that sucks. The design is an human effort as the computer or OS or software can not design itself. This means that the inanimate object, the computer or OS or software, can not suck. Leaving us with the humans being the source of the suckage and hence, it is the humans that suck.

As to the actual point I was making, If you have to choose "which type of suck" you must endure, I would suggest that Apple gives you the most options at the lowest overall TCO if you really want the ability to "choose" based on experience.

But I have been told this is not the forum for this discussion.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:48 pm
by Jaysen
kdbertel wrote:
garpu wrote:I'm a misanthrope when it comes to computers.


You're a person who hates people when it comes to computers? ;)

(Remember, "misanthrope" comes from the Greek words "miso" and "anthropos", which are "hate" and "man (person)", respectively...)

Wouldn't that be interpretable via context (not a greek scholar by any stretch)? Something like

garpu wrote:I'm a hater-man when it comes to computers

I expect to be corrected into oblivion. Have at it.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:09 pm
by kdbertel
Jaysen wrote:Wouldn't that be interpretable via context (not a greek scholar by any stretch)?


Yes, I understood what he meant. I was simply being pedantic (if there's one place I figure I can be pedantic about language, it's among a bunch of writers), though trying to be less-than-serious about it.

But the definition of the word still stands. I found the juxtaposition of using a word that explicitly refers to human beings being used in reference to computers to be amusing. :)

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:17 pm
by Jaysen
kdbertel wrote:
Jaysen wrote:Wouldn't that be interpretable via context (not a greek scholar by any stretch)?


Yes, I understood what he meant. I was simply being pedantic (if there's one place I figure I can be pedantic about language, it's among a bunch of writers), though trying to be less-than-serious about it.

But the definition of the word still stands. I found the juxtaposition of using a word that explicitly refers to human beings being used in reference to computers to be amusing. :)

Could be he is a cyborg which would make it technically more accurate while simultaneously more freaky.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:58 pm
by AmberV
Sounds like misanthropomorphising to me.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:00 pm
by kdbertel
AmberV wrote:Sounds like misanthropomorphising to me.


:lol:

I don't have any other response to that.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:21 pm
by Grandad7
Hello everyone I have just changed from Ywriter to Scrivener (sorry Simon :mrgreen: ) anyway I have seen that the price will be$40 for the windows version I just wondered how many upgrades will you get before having to pay for an upgrade. Thanks Grandad7

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:26 am
by KB
Hi Grandad7,

Thanks for using Scriv! There's no specific answer to your question, I'm afraid. All minor updates are free, so if you buy 1.0 you get 1.0.1, 1.1, 1.5, 1.67, 1.8 and so on for free, but then have to pay for an update to 2.0 when it is released. Then all updates will be free until 3.0. The update price is about half of the regular price, or just over (it's currently $25 on the Mac version, which costs $45 to buy new).

To give you some idea, though, 1.x of the Mac version was released in January 2007 and 2.0 was released in November 2010. Anyone who owned 1.x got 2.0 for $25, as I say, and anyone who had purchased 1.x three months or less before 2.0 was released got the update for free. So, someone who bought Scrivener 1.0 when it was first released got nearly four years of free updates; someone who bought in July 2010 only got four months' worth (which doesn't sound very fair, but unfortunately we have to have a cut-off, of course).

That said, I think 2.0 of the Windows version will come around much more quickly as 1.x of the Windows version won't have all of Scrivener 2.0-for-the-Mac's features. So it may be that for 1.x of the Windows version there is only a year or so of free updates, after which there would be a longer period for 2.0 (because I haven't even started planning 3.0 for the Mac version yet).

So, in other words, we don't know exactly. :) What I can say is that we won't release a paid upgrade less than a year after the last version was released. In general, it will be longer than that, but it's difficult to say with Windows 1.x at the moment.

We do try to be as fair as possible, though, and a little flexible - in general we're more interested in trying to make the current version as good as possible rather than trying to squeeze more money out of users for updates. Paid updates will only be for significant overhauls (2.0 on the Mac took me two years of coding, for instance).

Hope that helps a little, at least.

All the best,
Keith

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:16 am
by Roslyn
Thank You! Especially from those of us who can only afford to buy a $300 windows machine. THANK YOU! I love it! I am telling everyone about it, from my grad buddies, to my writing buddies, to all the teachers who create lesson plan collections. You have made our lives so much easier. Thank you again!
:D :D :D :lol: :P :D :D :D

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:22 pm
by kinsfire
I have friends who recommended this program, and I was sad at first when I saw that it was a Mac program, because I write most often on my laptop.

And then I found the link for the Windows version.

I am currently using the beta (0.20) to work on two short stories and a novel. I have used yWriter for a while (meh) and have paid for other programs - and far too much money at that. I am seriously in love with what I see, and fully intend to purchase the Mac version for my Cube at home, and will definitely purchase the Windows version when it's released.

This is, by far, the best designed and simply the smartest writing program I have ever found.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:48 pm
by AmberV
kinsfire wrote:...for my Cube at home...


That's fantastic that you still have a working Cube! :) You'll need at least Tiger on it to run Scrivener though, so hopefully it's updated.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:38 am
by kinsfire
It's running the highest possible version of OS X that it can handle. It literally will not update any longer, because it's hit the end of available updates. (It's certainly 10.4, if not 10.5. Don't think it can handle 10.5, but if it can, that's what I'm running.)

I have bought and run it, and LOVE it on the Mac!

AMAZING program, and thank you again for all the effort that has been put in to this to make it work on Windows.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:44 am
by ELeP_PerthAU
Wishlist (moderately important). I use Windows capability to extend my laptop desktop to a second monitor. For several reasons it is in the extended area when I put Scrivener when I am at work, but when I am home I do not yet have a second monitor. Most windows programs readjust automatically to just the available monitor configuration, but I find Scriviner is still mapped to the second monitor -- and there's no way to get it back. Not even restarting Scrivener gets it back because the monitor configuration is evidently saved to the current file, and Scrivener automatically goes gets the current file and the Scrivener desktop is off the screen! So I would be good if when emerging from sleep or hibernation, Scrivener also always checked the available monitor configuration and made a similar adjustment. Meanwhile I'm guessing that a fix would be that I must remember before 'sleeping' to drag Scrivener back to the laptop screen, disable the second monitor, then resave the file.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:24 pm
by MimeticMouton
ELeP_PerthAU - Click in the taskbar to focus the window, right-click on the taskbar item and select "Move", and then tap an arrow key to get the window back onto your screen.

Re: Scrivener for Windows...

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:01 pm
by ELeP_PerthAU
MimeticMouton wrote:ELeP_PerthAU - Click in the taskbar to focus the window, right-click on the taskbar item and select "Move", and then tap an arrow key to get the window back onto your screen.


Thanks. :oops: Long-time Windows user and times like now I realise my knowledge of the OS is as holey as a Swiss cheese. I'd like to be around in 20 years time when there is a next generation OS that takes care of all these things.