Scrivener for Windows...

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Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:03 am Post

Fantastic, I have never used Windows, I have been on a Mac for 20 years. But I would dearly love something really small and portable to run Scrivener on - and that's a Netbook. Let's face it, the iPad is lovely but what we really all wanted was something small to run Scrivener on! (listening Apple?)
This will provide the solution all those frustrated iPad users have been looking for. What Netbook should I buy?
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Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:43 pm Post

Hi Keith,

This is EXCELLENT news. I remember trying to beta test Scrivener on the Mac when you were first starting out but it was Tiger-only and I was stuck on a G3 iBook with Panther.

Over the years, I've been following (at a distance) the awesome evolution of Scrivener. And I've been salivating...

FF to today, I'm working at a company with the usual Windows laptop. The old iBook with Panther has long since died and a new laptop was/is nowhere on the financial horizon (hard to convince the family CFO, my wife, that i need another laptop if the company already gives me one :lol: )

Here's the funny thing, though - I'm actually ALLOWED to install programs on the company laptop but not any frameworks (.NET etc)

So I'm REALLY jonesing to get my paws on Scriv for Win. :D

Will Scriv/Win require .NET at all (i think i have 2.0 but i definitely don't have 3.5 which is often required) or any other special frameworks/dependencies etc?

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by AmberV on Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:18 pm

As long as your netbook runs XP, Vista, or w7, it should be able to run Scrivener just fine---especially if it can handle the monster that Office is.


Does this include the Windows 7 starter that is now being sold with netbooks?

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Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:33 pm Post

This is so exciting! A friend had bragged to our writing group about Scrivener, and now we lowly Windows users can get it, too. I have used a few other writing programs, and either they took too much work to learn, or they lacked some feature I really needed. Scrivener looks as if it has everything. How can I be sure that I get to be one of the beta testers? I'd love to put it to work for NaNoWriMo this year. I know how to make backups, and computer oddities are familiar to me--I used to be a Linux user. :D

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Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:37 pm Post

SpirosD wrote:__________________________________________________________________________________________
Will Scriv/Win require .NET at all (i think i have 2.0 but i definitely don’t have 3.5 which is often required) or any other special frameworks/dependencies etc?


It is being written in the QT framework, which is largely just of interest to geeks, as in practical usage all it means is that it will run just fine without any framework installation. So no .NET!

Kaydot wrote:__________________________________________________________________________________________
Does this include the Windows 7 starter that is now being sold with netbooks?


Good question. I don’t have a copy of Starter to test with, but from what I understand, it is mainly just a highly stripped down version of Windows 7. It ought to be able to run anything Windows 7 Home or greater can run (it can run Office 2010 from what I understand). The main limitation with it is that many control panel features have been disabled and it uses a more lightweight windowing framework than Aero.

Once the beta is out, this will be much easier to answer. :)
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Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:01 am Post

I am sorry to seem musically illiterate but what is the music used on the Scrivener Window's video?
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Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:02 am Post

janewatson wrote:… I would dearly love something really small and portable to run Scrivener on - and that's a Netbook.

I tried writing (using W--d) on my wife's Samsung netbook (I was almost going to buy one for myself before that, it's so neat).

But I found it infernally difficult to get used to that a-bit-smaller-than-standard keyboard. My typos almost outnumbered my intended characters! No doubt plenty of practice would've made tolerably good in the end, but I could see myself giving up way before I'd reached that level of proficiency.

Maybe a factor to consider when choosing netbook…

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Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:55 am Post

AmberV wrote:
SpirosD wrote:__________________________________________________________________________________________
Will Scriv/Win require .NET at all (i think i have 2.0 but i definitely don’t have 3.5 which is often required) or any other special frameworks/dependencies etc?


It is being written in the QT framework, which is largely just of interest to geeks, as in practical usage all it means is that it will run just fine without any framework installation. So no .NET!


Awesome. Bring it on, then! :D

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Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:10 pm Post

I principally use OSX, but this is a very good move. It will only work to L&L's benefit, financial and otherwise.

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Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:54 pm Post

Many heartfelt thanks to Keith and Lee from the side of the fence where the grass is greener. We've all seen the default XP wallpaper, right?
I was looking into buying a Mac because of Scrivener, just like a lot of us did but honestly, I kinda like PCs (ClearType especially). So this is terrific news for me. Looking forw... oh, come on! Where is that October when you need one?

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Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:50 pm Post

samokhov wrote:Looking forw... oh, come on! Where is that October when you need one?


My thoughts exactly!
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Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:06 pm Post

AmberV wrote:
SpirosD wrote:__________________________________________________________________________________________
Will Scriv/Win require .NET at all (i think i have 2.0 but i definitely don’t have 3.5 which is often required) or any other special frameworks/dependencies etc?


It is being written in the QT framework, which is largely just of interest to geeks, as in practical usage all it means is that it will run just fine without any framework installation. So no .NET!

Kaydot wrote:__________________________________________________________________________________________
Does this include the Windows 7 starter that is now being sold with netbooks?


Good question. I don’t have a copy of Starter to test with, but from what I understand, it is mainly just a highly stripped down version of Windows 7. It ought to be able to run anything Windows 7 Home or greater can run (it can run Office 2010 from what I understand). The main limitation with it is that many control panel features have been disabled and it uses a more lightweight windowing framework than Aero.

Once the beta is out, this will be much easier to answer. :)


It should - will be testing out the same issue on a HP Mini 1000 that comes with WinXP Home and syncing that (manually, dropbox, or via external drive) with my Win7 desktop computer. So really try to run the beta through the ringer and see what all we can do with it!
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:08 am Post

Quick UI question/request: Will Scrivener for Windows use a customized, more mac-like UI? If so, will Aero Snap still function in Windows 7 (please answer yes)/

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Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:54 pm Post

So preliminary testing indicates it will work just fine on Starter. I've been running tests on a new Asus Eee PC which I've deliberately left hampered by w7 Starter. It's way to early to be talking about performance, but that's looking good so far too.

It's also far too early to be talking about specific UI features like Snap. I can say it works right now, but who knows what the future will bring. As mentioned in the blog, this isn't going to be an Apple like attempt to bring the Mac to Windows, such as Safari and QuickTime. The goal here is create a Windows application that brings Scrivener to Windows users. The iconography will be familiar to Windows users, as will the menu layouts and so on. That said, it will have some of the ethos, if you will, of Mac software design just by virtue of coming from the same DNA. You won't have five stacks of tiny toolbar buttons and such. :)

On the whole, that's probably a good thing.
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