Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:46 pm Post
Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:47 pm Post
TinaInWonderland wrote:I know the big release can't be rushed, I totally understand, but I have to say that I would absolutely LOVE to have the full new version of Scrivener 3 to distract me from the all virus news. It's on top of my wish list and would help me focus on my writing career during this stressful time.
I hope all of y'all are safe, healthy, and doing as well as you can while the world is on temporary shutdown. Best wishes to you all.
Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:49 pm Post
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:42 am Post
endgame wrote:I do have to ask, though, if the plans for official release are anywhere near soon?
Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:46 pm Post
Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:55 pm Post
devinganger wrote:endgame wrote:I do have to ask, though, if the plans for official release are anywhere near soon?
You can ask, but L&L no longer give timelines or release dates. There have been some hints they hope to release it soon but no real definition of what soon is, nor is that tied to a specific timeline.
Also remember that in some translations, Jesus said he was coming back soon, so...
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:45 pm Post
George Williams wrote:I made the mistake of buying the Scrivener bundle for WIndows and Mac last year April .
Sales pitch in the bundle was that Scrivener 3 was on its way and you could upgrade when it arrived.
I think it is safe to conclude that Literature and Latte does not deliver on promise for what it sells and I am frustrated about that as I bought the bundle for a reason. I need cross platform tools considering the different platforms I have to work on.
The bare minimum absolute very least that Literature and Latte should do is to learn to be transparent and trustworthy.
* Be honest and transparent on where you are with your development by giving regular (far more than annual) updates.
* Communicate a date and commit to it. Worst case if you don't make the date you communicate why you did not achieve it and what is outstanding.
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:17 pm Post
jesuslpgc wrote:devinganger wrote:....
Also remember that in some translations, Jesus said he was coming back soon, so...
I haven't gone anywhere, as a matter of fact, as most Madrid citizens I happen to be locked up at my place and.... ah, OK...
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:28 pm Post
George Williams wrote:I made the mistake of buying the Scrivener bundle for WIndows and Mac last year April .
Sales pitch in the bundle was that Scrivener 3 was on its way and you could upgrade when it arrived.
I think it is safe to conclude that Literature and Latte does not deliver on promise for what it sells and I am frustrated about that as I bought the bundle for a reason. I need cross platform tools considering the different platforms I have to work on.
The bare minimum absolute very least that Literature and Latte should do is to learn to be transparent and trustworthy.
* Be honest and transparent on where you are with your development by giving regular (far more than annual) updates.
* Communicate a date and commit to it. Worst case if you don't make the date you communicate why you did not achieve it and what is outstanding.
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:18 pm Post
devinganger wrote:Also remember that in some translations, Jesus said he was coming back soon, so...
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:29 pm Post
theswede wrote:Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32 (NRSV)
"Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place."
Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:18 pm Post
Amcmo wrote:George Williams wrote:I made the mistake of buying the Scrivener bundle for WIndows and Mac last year April .
Sales pitch in the bundle was that Scrivener 3 was on its way and you could upgrade when it arrived.
I think it is safe to conclude that Literature and Latte does not deliver on promise for what it sells and I am frustrated about that as I bought the bundle for a reason. I need cross platform tools considering the different platforms I have to work on.
The bare minimum absolute very least that Literature and Latte should do is to learn to be transparent and trustworthy.
* Be honest and transparent on where you are with your development by giving regular (far more than annual) updates.
* Communicate a date and commit to it. Worst case if you don't make the date you communicate why you did not achieve it and what is outstanding.
And why Was it a mistake?
L&L have been very transparent with regular updates via the beta releases with a list of fixes. They have stated it will be released when ready. They made the mistake of giving a couple of expected release dates which couldn’t be achieved because of additional bugs found and have since consistently said they will not give estimates as a beta program is a moving target, it depends on bugs being identified by users and developers finding how to fix them.
You obviously have no experience with software development. Giving a firm date as you demand is dumb in the extreme and I could point you to Microsoft, Adobe, Apple, IBM Google, and many others who have done this and failed to deliver many times over and they have resources thousands of times greater than L&L.
Get off L&L’s back, enjoy the great software you already have and focus on more important things than bitching because the very useable beta V3 doesn’t have a full released version number yet. Let their two developers focus on getting the job done rather than wasting time giving you ‘regular updates’.
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