Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:09 am Post
Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:18 pm Post
ForgottenGold wrote:Yup. They're missing the deadline. Again.
If they'd just get their act together and release Windows and Mac OS updates at the same time they wouldn't have this issue.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:08 am Post
DavidR wrote:ForgottenGold wrote:Yup. They're missing the deadline. Again.
If they'd just get their act together and release Windows and Mac OS updates at the same time they wouldn't have this issue.
There is really only one way this "getting their act together" could be accomplished: by charging a price for Scrivener that is what it is actually worth, say 5 times what they're currently charging. Then they could hire a large programming shop and be more responsive to customers. You know, like Microsoft. Or Adobe.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:00 am Post
ForgottenGold wrote:And? I end up paying that anyway because lots of bigger programs like that have 5 device licenses, whereas Scrivener doesn’t.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:02 am Post
ForgottenGold wrote:And? I end up paying that anyway because lots of bigger programs like that have 5 device licenses, whereas Scrivener doesn’t.
Either way, it’s bad business and a bad habit to keep missing deadlines over and over and over.
Really the solution is actually very simple anyway. Finish a Mac update, don’t release it until the Windows update is complete, and keep hush hush about updates. That’s what most companies do. If they think they’re keeping customers by promising updates, it’s not working. At least not for me. I’m earnestly looking for replacements, and I’m not doing too shabby so far. I hate that I have to look for replacements but Scrivener is behind the times in a lot of respects. I can’t use Scrivener on my Surface. I know it’ll take them ten years to get around to making it work for a Surface, so why stick around?
I’d rather pay 5 times more and actually have crap fixed than waiting 5-10 years for things to get done.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:45 am Post
ForgottenGold wrote:I can’t use Scrivener on my Surface.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:12 pm Post
devinganger wrote:ForgottenGold wrote:I can’t use Scrivener on my Surface.
Huh. I've used Scrivener on both my Surface Pro 1 and Surface Pro 3. What super-secret Surface x64 (they're all 64-bit devices, except for the Surface RT and Surface 2 RT, so they are x64 and not x86) do you have that doesn't work with Scrivener?
Now, if you're trying to use it via the tablet interface...you're out of luck, because it's not optimized for it, and it probably won't be until such time as they start working on the Android UI and can back port some of the relevant changes to the Windows UI. But even then, it's meant to be on par with Mac Scrivener, and Apple in their infinite wisdom doesn't put touch screens on Macs, so Mac Scrivener doesn't have to optimize for a touch interface.
But here's the thing -- NOBODY promised you Scrivener for Windows ever would.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:15 pm Post
Astaff wrote:
It's not going to speed up the development insulting the L&L team, or get you any special favors.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:18 pm Post
kewms wrote:ForgottenGold wrote:And? I end up paying that anyway because lots of bigger programs like that have 5 device licenses, whereas Scrivener doesn’t.
Huh? Sure we do. You can use Scrivener on as many devices (of the same platform) as you personally own and control.
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Katherine
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:03 pm Post
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:36 pm Post
Astaff wrote:‘My bad. I was thinking of across platform. I’d still rather pay 5 times as much and have them work well instead of limping along.’
Well, why pay five times as much when for 3 fees you can have versions that work brilliantly across all 3 platforms. Last time I looked with MS you had to pay 5 times as much for EACH platform, and Adobe was as much as 1 Scrivener licence Each month.
L&L have their act together providing perfectly functional versions across the platforms. V3 for Win will just be ‘that much better’ when it releases shortly.
I don’t know where you get the ‘limping’ bit from. So you don’t get touch on Surface which isn’t in the spec. It still works exactly as advertised on Win (even Surface), Mac and iOS and synchs painlessly between the 3.
So you ‘AM’ looking for alternatives. Suggests you haven’t found anything that comes close to Scrivener, even from the likes of MS, Adobe, Google etc who have 10’s even 100’s of $ millions to throw at a program.......
Seems authors who work (instead of complaining how ‘pissed off’ they are) have no problems putting out great work with Scrivener regardless of version or platform.
Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:20 pm Post
ForgottenGold wrote:devinganger wrote:ForgottenGold wrote:I can’t use Scrivener on my Surface.
Huh. I've used Scrivener on both my Surface Pro 1 and Surface Pro 3. What super-secret Surface x64 (they're all 64-bit devices, except for the Surface RT and Surface 2 RT, so they are x64 and not x86) do you have that doesn't work with Scrivener?
Now, if you're trying to use it via the tablet interface...you're out of luck, because it's not optimized for it, and it probably won't be until such time as they start working on the Android UI and can back port some of the relevant changes to the Windows UI. But even then, it's meant to be on par with Mac Scrivener, and Apple in their infinite wisdom doesn't put touch screens on Macs, so Mac Scrivener doesn't have to optimize for a touch interface.
But here's the thing -- NOBODY promised you Scrivener for Windows ever would.
Right. For touch.
Also I don’t care what they promised. I care what they don’t do. That’s what keeps them behind and what will ultimately push them out of the game. Like...oh look. Now. Because I can’t use it on my Surface.
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