Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:10 pm Post
Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:26 pm Post
MimeticMouton wrote:Okay, you're on the right track. As in Word, you just need to set the tab stops for the TOC document in Scrivener to be 4.1. Ctrl+Shift+R will toggle the ruler in the editor; select all the contents list and drag the tab stop from its current position (probably 6.25) to 4.1.
Normally the "Table of Contents" text in your document would be centred between the margins when compiled if it was centred in Scrivener's editor, but possibly you've set some specific indentation for that in Scrivener which is compiling as-is and thus moving it off to the right? You could try setting all the indents for that line to "0", or alternatively specifically set the right-indent to 4.1, in line with the right margin, so that the text is centred between the first-line and right indents.
Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:38 am Post
Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:45 am Post
MimeticMouton wrote:Right, the default tab setting for the Copy as ToC is too wide for your 5.5inch page width, so adjusting it to the 4.1" setting will place the numbers at the right margin where you want them. You can control the tab stops better by going into the Editor settings in Tools > Options and adjusting the "snap to ruler" setting--if you make it .1, you should have a much easier time snapping the tab stop into place in the editor. For your existing documents you'll need to use Documents > Convert > Formatting to Default Text Style to put that into effect. You'll probably want to choose "Preserve alignment" and "Preserve tabs and indents" when you run that on the TOC, so you don't have to redo formatting.
Have you tried compiling directly to RTF and opening that to check the page number links? That will bypass converter issues, so let's get that working first to see what's going on. Which version of Word are you using?
Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:50 am Post
Marilynx wrote:Oh, lord, now I'm going to be confused again.
Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:10 am Post
Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:37 am Post
Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:30 am Post
MimeticMouton wrote: You can click the "Save Preset" button in the lower left of the compile dialog to save the preset and make it available with other projects. The contents list isn't saved, nor the "as-is" or "page break before" settings, since these are specific to the given project and the document settings, but everything else--level formatting, paper size, etc.--will be saved.
After you open the compiled document in Word, have you tried the Save As PDF or Print options to see if that sorts out the page numbering? Are the links to the chapters in the TOC correct, and just the page numbers are wrong, or do the links not work either? (In word you usually Ctrl+click the link.)
Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:10 am Post
Marilynx wrote:Can I compile a single document from my Characters folder, inserting the "break code," for splitting (was it a pound sign?) so that she can import that file and have it split up into the separate folders and documents that it was before compilation?
Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:51 am Post
MimeticMouton wrote:I don't have access to my machine with MS Office XP on it, so I'm afraid I can't run specific testing on that at the moment. I forgot it didn't have the PDF option, sorry about that. It should have a Print Preview though, which ought to run the layout stuff. If you open that and click around a bit in there to view the pages, then close it, does that get the page numbers updated? If not I'm going to need to do a little more testing in that version. Word's always been a little funky with this--on Mac too--and you need to kind of virtually kick it to get it to run the numbers. I've mostly been working with 2010 and 2013 lately, so 2002 might have a different trick.
Yup, just use File > Import > Import and Split... and enter the character you used as a divider. The pound sign (#) is the default, but you can use anything you want, even multiple empty lines. The main thing is just to use a divider that's unique, so you only get the splits where you want them.
Remember too that although normally you can only compile documents that are within the Draft folder, you can compile text documents in a collections, so if your character items are outside the Draft, you can add them to a "Characters" collection and select that from the drop-down menu at the top of the Contents list in compile. Any collections you have will appear by name at the bottom of that menu.
Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:39 am Post
Except I'm not seeing where I should put the unique character for this. Ought I to develop a separate preset for this?
Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:49 pm Post
MimeticMouton wrote:Oh good, I'm glad the Print Preview is working now. Running that forces Word to figure out the layout for printing, which means updating all the internal references for page numbers, etc. so it's kind of "seeing" for the first time where the linked RTF bookmarks are falling in the layout.
I have nothing against Word XP. I rejoice that it does not have The Ribbon and would not try to dissuade you from using it. I rarely use Word at all these days outside of testing, but I have the newer versions installed on the Windows 7 machines I use more frequently for that, since they're more common.
In the Separators tab of compile, choose "Custom" as the separator between whatever file types you have for your character sheets (if they're all text files, you want the text/text separator; if some of them are folders, you'll need to set others--you could just set the same custom separator for everything and it should be fine) and then enter the character there.
You might want to make other changes and save it as another preset--for instance if you have a header and footer normally, you might not want that here, or you might want a different one that just indicates the title of the project the character sheets are for, etc. Once you have it set as you like, just choose "Save Preset" and give it a new name.
Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:16 am Post
Marilynx wrote: Scrivener said the .doc file it had just made wasn't a .doc file.
Marilynx wrote:What I got back, on reimportation, was a single folder claiming to have all the items in it. When I clicked on the folder, it displayed, scrivenings style, all of the documents I had imported. It says it has X files in it... but I can't open the folder to access them.
Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:14 am Post
MimeticMouton wrote:Marilynx wrote: Scrivener said the .doc file it had just made wasn't a .doc file.
Sorry, this is a problem with the importer when working with a compiled .doc file using the "RTF-Based" converter. Compiling straight to RTF will be best for this, since you're just passing it off to your collaborator for re-import.
This I think is a bug we're in the process of fixing for the next release. If you select the folder into which you've imported the documents and use the RightArrow key to expand the folder, does that work? There's a bug right now where the disclosure arrow in the binder isn't appearing on the Import & Split until triggered by some change to the folder like dragging and dropping the subitems. For instance if you select the folder and load it in corkboard or outliner mode (select the view mode from the View menu or using the icon buttons in the main toolbar), you can move one of the documents in the editor and it will display the disclosure triangle in the binder. Then just move the doc back to its proper place.
Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:34 am Post
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