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daddude7
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Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:08 pm Post

Has anyone figured out how to use the native Windows 10 speech recognition app with Scrivener 1? It works with everything else. I was hoping to let my fingers rest a little. I will be grateful for any information .

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philjaq
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Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:55 pm Post

I tried but didn't get very good results.

With W10 speech recognition, I find the better way is to start it by using the Windows key + H. This gives a rather long thin bar at the top of my screen with an image of a microphone at the left hand end. Then clicking in my Scrivener text doc and dictating causes the dictation to be entered directly into the document. This way gives me better speech recognition.

The other way, using the Windows key for the start menu and scrolling down to the W's for Windows Ease of Access > Windows Speech Recognition gives a different shaped bar at the top of the screen, again with a microphone at the left hand. Clicking on the mike to start the app and then clicking in the Scriv doc starts dictation in a small window with a Select and Cancel button. Saying 'Select', enters the text into the document.

This second method gives me very poor results.

Since the there seem to be two interfaces and one gives me better results, I do wonder if there are two recognition engines. But I have never greatly persisted because I have Nuance Dragon dictation software which works better.

Sorry this doesn't help you much.

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Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:07 pm Post

philjaq wrote:I tried but didn't get very good results.

With W10 speech recognition, I find the better way is to start it by using the Windows key + H. This gives a rather long thin bar at the top of my screen with an image of a microphone at the left hand end. Then clicking in my Scrivener text doc and dictating causes the dictation to be entered directly into the document. This way gives me better speech recognition.

The other way, using the Windows key for the start menu and scrolling down to the W's for Windows Ease of Access > Windows Speech Recognition gives a different shaped bar at the top of the screen, again with a microphone at the left hand. Clicking on the mike to start the app and then clicking in the Scriv doc starts dictation in a small window with a Select and Cancel button. Saying 'Select', enters the text into the document.

This second method gives me very poor results.

Since the there seem to be two interfaces and one gives me better results, I do wonder if there are two recognition engines. But I have never greatly persisted because I have Nuance Dragon dictation software which works better.

Sorry this doesn't help you much.


Thank you, Phil. Is Dragon working well for you? Are there any tricks you'd be willing to share? I'm considering it, but have balked at the price. Have to do something--my hands hurt too much.

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Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:16 pm Post

Yes Dragon works well. I don't use it as often as I should because my work flow is not as efficient as it should be. Dictation works better, I think, if you just talk and don't think about editing at the same time. In fact, that is what's recommended for typing too but I'm not a speed typist and I do sometimes (often) get sidetracked into editing as I go along.

Experts advise to use a good quality microphone. But after I saw a surgeon dictating his notes with a small bluetooth mike clipped around his ear and getting good results, I bought a cheapo bluetooth set from Amazon. It works really well with fewer mistakes than I get with W10's built in dictation.

I understand about hands hurting. I get similar problems with using my trackball and try to use keyboard short-cuts as much as possible. I don't really feel happy 'talking' to digital assistants like Cortana.