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Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:39 pm
by matt
Hi,
Right, I think when I built the second upload for PPC as well as Intel, I did it from a different computer with the old manual. Will upload the new manual today and post a link.

Matt

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:46 am
by igregor
Matt.

The fix you sent works. I'm able to open version 0.8. Looks great. Hope to get to check it out soon.

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:31 am
by matt
I have just uploaded a new version that:
  • Works properly with Leopard (10.5.8)
  • Adds the correct, updated User Manual
  • Fixes a bug in Leopard/Snow Leopard that prevented the colour picker from closing
  • Remembers the window position correctly.

Please update to this new version, and remember to send any crash logs etc. through to me as this greatly assists the process of finding errors.

Thanks,
Matt

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:26 am
by Ursula
Hi Matt,

I'm using 10.5.8 on a PPC iMac G5 and can't install Aeon 0.8.1.

Would like to see the new GUI! Any advice?

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:40 am
by matt
Damn, I was hoping PPC would work.

Apple is making it very difficult to work with PPCs... when building on Lion with their latest version of Xcode, they don't even allow PPC as an option, so I have to go back to an older OS to build.

Could you send me an email to support (at) scribblecode (dot) com.

I will play around with some settings and send you an update directly. Once you can confirm we at least have a version that works, I will upload it as another update.

Matt

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:06 am
by Spitfire31
Matt,

Many thanks for 0.8.1! It solved my Leopard problems, but with a caveat:

I had to trash the earlier (0.8.0) com.scribblecode pref file in user:Library:Preferences before it would behave.

Before that, 0.8.1 didn't crash but refused to open files and, when I tried to open a newly saved 0.8.1 test file using Open Recent, Aeon stubbornly launched the Calendar dialog and refused to let go…

So, to anyone who tested 0.8.0 on Leopard and then replaced it with 0.8.1 – trash the pref and all will be well.

/Joachim

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:53 am
by Ursula
matt wrote:Could you send me an email to support (at) scribblecode (dot) com.

I will play around with some settings and send you an update directly. Once you can confirm we at least have a version that works, I will upload it as another update.


Sorry for being late. I forgot to let me notify when a reply is posted. Thought this would be by default ...

I sent you the email.

Trashing the preferences as proposed by Joachim didn't help. I got the message Aeon couldn't be installed on that architecture.

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:35 am
by matt
Ursula wrote:Trashing the preferences as proposed by Joachim didn't help. I got the message Aeon couldn't be installed on that architecture.


Yeah, I thought that would be the case. It is all just Apple trying as hard as possible to stop us from supporting PPM anymore.

I have emailed Keith to ask what he does to support PPC, but I will do some googling also to see if I can figure out which setting Apple has secretly changed to stop it working.

Matt

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:42 am
by Spitfire31
Ursula wrote:Trashing the preferences as proposed by Joachim didn't help. I got the message Aeon couldn't be installed on that architecture.
Sorry – I should have spelled out in my last (latest?) post, about Leopard and trashing the pref file, that my machines are Intel.

Since Apple has withdrawn PPC support, I've drawn the unavoidable conclusion and retired my PPC G5 from the daily chores. Except, I have to still keep it around because of some very nice but orphaned audio programs that will never be updated to Intel. Even a retiree can be indispensable…;-)

/Joachim

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:30 am
by Ursula
Spitfire31 wrote:Sorry – I should have spelled out in my last (latest?) post, about Leopard and trashing the pref file, that my machines are Intel.


I thought so when reading your post. But, you never know. Sometimes it helps to jump three times and run around the table ...

Spitfire31 wrote:Even a retiree can be indispensable…;-)


I hope so!

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:56 am
by Spitfire31
Ursula wrote:Sometimes it helps to jump three times and run around the table ...
Definitely. In difficult cases, though, I might also sacrifice a chicken under the full moon.

I hope that Matt can figure out the appropriate PPC incantation.

/Joachim

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:55 am
by Ursula
Spitfire31 wrote:
Ursula wrote:Sometimes it helps to jump three times and run around the table ...
Definitely. In difficult cases, though, I might also sacrifice a chicken under the full moon.


Next full moon will be on Oct. 12th. Hopefully Matt finds a solution until this date, I really even don't like to think about your proposal. Would it help to eat a fried chicken? It's kind of a sacrifice too, isn't it?

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:26 pm
by PJS
Matt --

Really like the new interface: tight clusters of events along entity lines are easy to discern and follow. And it's a good idea to minimize project-wide preferences. It'll be a few days until I can try out Scr synchronization, but it sounds perfect (a big help that multiple Scr projects can be synchronized with a single timeline -- a blessing as I revise story Y to accommodate changes in story X).

Oh... and I'm on Lion at last. Everything looks good.

Spitfire31 wrote:Since Apple has withdrawn PPC support, I've drawn the unavoidable conclusion and retired my PPC G5 from the daily chores. Except, I have to still keep it around because of some very nice but orphaned audio programs that will never be updated to Intel. Even a retiree can be indispensable…;-)


I've done the same, for similar reasons. In the same way, I suppose, that Lady of the House keeps me around.

Phil

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:38 pm
by matt
I have just uploaded a new release, version 0.8.2.

Ursula has confirmed it works with PPC, so what she does with the chickens now is her business.

It fixes several stability bugs that could potentially cause crashes and prevent files from opening, so it would be a good idea for everyone to update.

There are still a couple of reported bugs that I have not yet addressed (one to do with tags, one to do with exporting). Once I get those cleaned up, and if I don't get any further reports, then I will start adding the last few final touches on what will soon become the first commercial release.

After that, there are a few potentially larger ideas still kicking around that I will consider post-1.0.

If anyone experiences further bugs/crashes after this release, please report them again.

Matt

Re: Aeon Timeline 0.8 - Finally, a proper interface

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:45 pm
by igregor
Matt.

0.8.2 is running fine on OS 10.5.8 Intel machine. Two minor suggestions:

(1) Timeline Date Format change seems not to take effect until after returning to the timeline and selecting an entity. Seems that change should occur upon conclusion of TL Date Format change. [BTW, what's the purpose of Preferred Date Format preference? Switching between Day/Month and Month/Day doesn't seem to change anything.]

(2) My old eyes have difficulty seeing some of the dark colored balls/dots (particularly blues) along the lower black context bar. Switching from black to a lighter shade of gray might make it a little easier on the eyes.

All else looking mucho improved. Nice work :D