SAVE PDF TO SCRIVENER - not working with Big Sur OS

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Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:57 am Post

Hello,
Every time I use "Preview" to open a PDF and want to save it to Scrivener by using the option SAVE PDF TO SCRIVENER in Preview, the document doesn't show in Scrivener. My MacOS is the new Big Sur.
Is it just me or there's a glitch with BigSur?
Thanks

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Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:34 pm Post

flean wrote:Hello,
Every time I use "Preview" to open a PDF and want to save it to Scrivener by using the option SAVE PDF TO SCRIVENER in Preview, the document doesn't show in Scrivener. My MacOS is the new Big Sur.
Is it just me or there's a glitch with BigSur?
Thanks


Hi flean,

I have tried this from PDF and from Safari and yes, its not going through.
Just to be clear. You are using the print feature right? File--> Print --> Save PDF to Scrivener.
If so, then it looks like something Big Sur has done.

I suggest waiting for the new version of Scrivener (this week if all goes well) and see what happens.

Goose

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Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:06 pm Post

It could be that in the update, the alias that points to Scrivener got damaged. This is a really basic technology actually, and you can make your own “buttons” to save PDFs to programs even if they don’t add an alias on their own.

Since the MAS version isn’t allowed to do it, we have instructions on how to set things up in the user manual, under §3.3.2, Installing Extras. Just follow those, only taking the additional step of deleting the one that currently exists, in the given location.

I haven’t tried it though, it’s always possible Apple broke the mechanism accidentally and nothing will work until they fix it.
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Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:02 pm Post

I found some time to boot into the macOS 11 test drive, and have done some further testing on this. It looks like no amount of alias repair will solve this. Hopefully it is easy to fix, as I noted another program that has this particular facility in place (EagleFiler) does work.
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Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:15 pm Post

I am having the same problem of not being able to use the print dialog to "print" a PDF into Scrivener.
Running under Big Sur. 11.0.1
Scrivener 3.2.1

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Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:47 pm Post

Yeah, I just mentioned one post above yours that it's confirmed.
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:14 pm Post

Still not working as of mid-January, unfortunately.

Running Scrivener 3.2.2 for Mac, Apple store version, and Big Sur 11.1. Deleted the alias in the PDF Services folder and rebuilt it in both the user folder and the system-level equivalent -- neither works. Both appear to print the file to .pdf but then it does not show up anywhere I can find in the current open project in Scrivener.

Hopefully a fix will make the next release - I know Big Sur is a challenge to keep up with, but this is great functionality I hope remains in Scrivener as it's the easiest way to get error-proof research into a project while using separate MacOS workspaces for Scrivener and day-to-day action.

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Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:35 am Post

Why not just import the PDF directly to Scrivener after saving the print as a PDF?

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Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:57 pm Post

That is indeed the straight-forward workaround. For one that does this quite a lot, the most efficient approach would be to save PDFs into a folder somewhere, and batch import them at the end of the day, and trash the folder contents. All in all, when batched like that, you're only increasing the work you do by an ever so slight amount.
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Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:42 pm Post

AmberV wrote:That is indeed the straight-forward workaround. For one that does this quite a lot, the most efficient approach would be to save PDFs into a folder somewhere, and batch import them at the end of the day, and trash the folder contents. All in all, when batched like that, you're only increasing the work you do by an ever so slight amount.


I advise AGAINST batch importing. I do this a lot for my research folder, and I have found that when I do batch importing, it will a lot of the times comepletely lock Scrivener up, forcing a "force quit" and a rebuild of the index. One at a time works best, from my experience.

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Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:47 pm Post

That may be an issue in newer OS versions, or with the types of PDFs one is importing. I've never seen anything like that, but I've never extensively used anything past 10.14. Your mileage may vary, in other words.
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Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:19 pm Post

AmberV wrote:That may be an issue in newer OS versions, or with the types of PDFs one is importing. I've never seen anything like that, but I've never extensively used anything past 10.14. Your mileage may vary, in other words.


The batch import issue (for me anyway) has been happening as far back as MacOS 10.12: Sierra and Scrivener 2 for Mac. Like what Amber says though, what happens to me though might not happen to others, but you should be aware that I've personally had these issues so that if you end up with the same issues, you know to back down to importing PDFs one at a time. :D

It's a little more time-consuming, but it works.

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Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:26 pm Post

Still not working with Big Sur 11.1 and Scrivener 3.2.2 (non-MAS version). Would love to see this functionality restored, if possible.

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Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:27 pm Post

The "Save PDF to Scrivener" feature on MacOS Big Sur, v11.2.3 is still not working. I am running Scrivener v3.2.2 (14632). This is a feature that I use frequently. Without it, Scrivener becomes a less viable tool for me. I have tried going to the ~/Library/PDF\ Services directory and deleting the 'Save PDF to Scrivener'. I then restarted Scrivener and the file was recreated. However, this feature still does not work.

Is there a ticket tracking this issue in your bug reporting system? Are there plans for this to be addressed in the near future?

Thank you,
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Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:43 pm Post

I believe if you review the thread you are responding to, you will find it is on our list, and you will also encounter some workarounds that may work for you.
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