Importing MarginNotes 3 mindmaps

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Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:38 pm Post

Hello. Just started to use MarginNotes 3 to annotate and generate mindmaps from my pdfs...is there a way to import them to Scrivener 3 so my outliner is ready to go?
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:07 pm Post

If you can export from Marginnote to an OPML file, I would think that would work.
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:13 pm Post

Well...Those are the options it offers...
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:04 pm Post

Have you got MindManager or iThoughts? I've just testing exporting from MarginNote to iThoughts, then sharing from iThoughts as an OPML file and it works well, as far as I can tell.

If you haven't got either of those apps, then try FreeMind to see if it will read MarginNote's export.

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Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:19 pm Post

I don't know what OmniOutliner can do on iOS, but that might be another route to OPML, given how their Mac version works.
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:01 pm Post

Well, I was able to export from Margin Note to Ithoughts and from them to OPML. But then when I import the OPML file to Scrivener, it's just a series of blank files...
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:33 pm Post

In Scrivener, open Preferences, go to Sharing, then choose the right options in OPML.
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:44 pm Post

mbbntu wrote:In Scrivener, open Preferences, go to Sharing, then choose the right options in OPML.


The only options are where to import and to create a folder for imported OPML, neither makes a difference...

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Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:19 pm Post

What does it look like in iThoughts? And what does the OPML look like? Note that the Scrivener preferences offer the options to put notes into main text, synopsis, etc, so you might need to change that.
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Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:29 pm Post

mbbntu wrote:What does it look like in iThoughts? And what does the OPML look like? Note that the Scrivener preferences offer the options to put notes into main text, synopsis, etc, so you might need to change that.


I just found out the problem...Margin Notes, by default, makes its excerpts to images...I had to OCR them to convert to text, and then the Ithoughts->OPML->Scrivener route works... :D
Thanks all, hope MarginNotes developers Adress this issue...

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Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:16 am Post

Yeah! That’s a pretty roundabout way of exporting text, hopefully they can get that fixed. OPML is more of a loose convention than a standard, but I don’t think many programs will use images that have been saved into it. It is mostly designed to transfer structured text outlines as headings (with some software supporting a “notes” attribute for long-form text). So it's perfect for getting outlines between software like Scrivener, mind-maps and dedicated outliners.
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Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:04 am Post

I'm relatively new to both Scrivener and MindNotes3 and finding them both exceedingly helpful. I followed Andre's query on how to import MN3 files into Scrivener and was encouraged that he'd found a solution. What I don't understand is how to OCR the MN3 file before sending it on to IThoughts? Please advise.

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Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:52 am Post

Why not use iThoughts from start?
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Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:22 pm Post

John Gouldthorpe wrote:I'm relatively new to both Scrivener and MindNotes3 and finding them both exceedingly helpful. I followed Andre's query on how to import MN3 files into Scrivener and was encouraged that he'd found a solution. What I don't understand is how to OCR the MN3 file before sending it on to IThoughts? Please advise.


The OP was using MarginNote, but you indicate that you are using something called ‘MindNotes’. So, maybe you are not talking about the same app?

Anyway, the MarginNotes website indicates that the app has built-in OCR capability. It looks like this is something you would invoke on a per clipping basis. I don’t use the software (though it looks intriguing), so I can’t be any better help.

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Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:59 pm Post

Hello Again, for my first post here I appear to me mindless when concerned with making mind maps. I mistakenly referred to Margin Notes 3 as Mind Notes 3. Following Andre's query on how to import MN3 files into Scrivener I was encouraged that he'd found a work around solution. What I don't understand is how to OCR the MN3 file before sending it on to IThoughts and then on to the files ultimate destination of Scrivener. The OCR feature within MN3 only works on a note by note basis. Some of my files have hundreds of notes making it impractical to OCR individual notes. Please advise.