Time insert?

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Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:01 pm Post

Hi,
I want to be able to insert the time without the date. Is there a way of doing this? Please treat me as if you were dealing with a very young child who is far from being computer literate :D
Any help, guidance, would be much appreciated.
martin.
p.s. I have searched through the forums but no luck.

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Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:58 pm Post

WordService can insert the time (you can create your own keyboard shortcut, if you want to).

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/wordser ... 2312?mt=12

Don't think that a time-only service exists in Scrivener.

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:43 am Post

Thanks for your suggestion. I've downloaded Word Service from the iTunes link but I've no idea what to do next :D. I did what was suggested i.e. opened my systems preference, then keyboard, shortcuts and services. It lists several Scrivener things but I haven't a clue which box to click.
I am pretty clueless regarding anything technical. I'm from the era when we communicated with two cocoa tins and a length of string (didn't work going round corners!)
I've been using Scrivener since last June and, until recently, it was possible to insert only the time as well as date and time. There's a greyed out box called 'media time stamp' so I don't know if that's something to do with it.
It seems to me that a time only insert is quite a basic and simple thing to have. I keep a journal and, apart from using the date and time each day, I don't want to add the date each time I make an entry on that day.
If you have any thoughts, ideas, or further suggestions I'd be most grateful.
m.

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:58 am Post

Hi.

Nearly there. You need WordService > Insert Time.

And then assign your own keyboard shortcut (which doesn't conflict with any other existing keyboard shortcut, for example CTRL OPT SHIFT T).

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:25 am Post

Thanks very much. I clicked the word service time box and added the shortcut you suggested i.e. control, option, shift, T. But nothing happened when I tried that in Scrivener. I appreciate your help and patience but I think it's probably easier if I just type in the time myself! I checked my journal entries again and there was definitely a time insert until earlier this year.
m.

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:36 pm Post

Hi.

Sorry that it doesn't work. It should appear as a menu item and be a working shortcut.

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:54 pm Post

Yes, I understand that. When I open Scrivener and place my cursor on services it shows 'no services apply'. It seems I'm doing something wrong when I've clicked on WordService in services and entered the shortcut. Perhaps there's an 'apply' that I'm missing? This is all a bit "Houston I've got a problem" level for me :D

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:19 pm Post

Hi.

Mmmm, Major Tom, this is Houston, is the cursor actually in the editor? Services can only apply when a suitably functional part of the screen / an app has focus.

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:33 pm Post

I do feel like a schoolboy who's trying his best to get his homework right to please his teacher. It's moving into the territory of me not only failing to find the answers but also not understanding the questions! :roll:
Anyway - here's a screenshot which, I hope, shows the greyed-out section. I've hovered my cursor over every available area but without getting in feedback.
A child of 5 could probably succeed in this! :D
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:38 pm Post

I think your problem may be that the shortcut you've entered may be one already used by Scrivener. I tried with a shortcut to "Insert Short Date", and when I tried it the "Document" menu flashed.

I checked with the list I made some years ago of all the shortcuts in Scrivener, listed in order of the final cipher/glyph*:

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and changed the shortcuts set for that to Cmd-§ and "Insert long date" to Cmd-±, and entered an unused one for Windows - Mac line endings. When I went back to Scrivener, my Services menu was fully populated and worked.

:)

Mark

* I made the list while I was using Scrivener v. 2.x and haven't updated it to reflect any changed shortcut settings for v.3; but it gives you something to start from.
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:17 pm Post

risibilis wrote:I've hovered my cursor over every available area

Hovering is no good. Services usually act on something you have SELECTED, like text, or an image, or a file. So try clicking in a text field.
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Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:49 am Post

Morning.

Mark speculates that there might be a conflict for CTRL OPT SHIFT T, but I can't find one on my installation of Scrivener, although personalisations might well cause local conflicts.

However, we could try a different keystroke, such as CTRL OPT CMD / (that's CTRL OPT CMD FORWARD-SLASH). You just need to select the old keystroke combination and type in the new one.

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And then, as mbbntu says, for the service to work, the cursor needs to be in an editable area: so if the cursor is flashing inside a text document in the editor and you press CTRL OPT CMD /, the current time should be inserted for you.

And if you should be interested in a list of Scrivener 3 shortcuts, see:
viewtopic.php?p=272981#p272981

Really hope it works for you.

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Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:30 am Post

Just checking that the WordService entry for Insert Time is ticked (as in the image above) so that it is active as a service?

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Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:34 pm Post

Hallelujah! Yes, indeed, control, option, command, forward slash works!
Well, with your help and clear guidance, others contributions too, I'm now able to insert the time with easy to remember commands.

Many thanks,
best wishes,
martin.

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Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:33 am Post

Glad it works as you need it to. Perhaps there was a conflict with the first keystroke combination, as Mark surmised. Apologies if there was.

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