Blue Dots Under Text (Scrivener 3)

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driver49
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:39 pm Post

I purchased, downloaded and installed Scrivener 3 last night. Seems to work fine so far, but I'm grappling with some of the configuration options.

I've uploaded a screenshot of a typical paragraph that shows little blue dots under some of the text. I guess this is recommended grammar corrections? Whatever it is... how do I make it stop?

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Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:01 pm Post

I’m not 100% positive as don’t regularly use these settings, but I think that is how macOS indicates it has auto-corrected your text. What has me confused is that I thought that just showed up briefly after it fixed a word, rather than sticking around like that.

Well here are some things to try:

  • Edit/Spelling and Grammar/Check Gramar with Spelling
  • In the Corrections preference pane: Correct spelling errors as you type.
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:21 pm Post

I find the "stick around" behavior varies app to app. I'm certain it has something to do with the underlying txt entry object. For example, in messages the dots do not stick around much. In scriv they do. In mail they do. In safari posts to the forum they do not.

If it wasn't for the messages/mail/safari differences I would say it's an apple internal API thing but there it is acting different in apple internal apps.
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:29 pm Post

Did you dictate this text by any chance? This is a feature of macOS. When you use it's dictation feature, it places blue dots beneath text that it isn't entirely sure of. You can then Ctrl-click on such sections of text to choose alternative suggestions. (Unfortunately there's a bug I've just noticed whereby Scrivener isn't showing those suggestions, owing to its custom contextual menu - I've fixed that for the first update.) I'm afraid I have no idea how to tell the text system how to accept the changes and get rid of the dots, though! The easiest way I have found is to simply click on another document in the binder and then click back again. I can't find any documentation from Apple on this. (Dictation is a standard part of the macOS text system rather than something specifically provided by Scrivener.)
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:47 pm Post

KB wrote:Did you dictate this text by any chance?

I know that isn't directed at me, but no. Regretfully I'm not at my mac to test right now. I'll give it a run this evening.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure this behavior exists in 2.x as well.
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:33 pm Post

KB wrote:Did you dictate this text by any chance?


Good guess.

Yes, this text was dictated using the internal MacOS voice rec function, which works surprisingly well (at least it doesn't cost the $300 I almost shelled out for Dragon Dictation).

The dots go away when I switch to another paragraph - they only appear in a paragraph I'm editing.

I'll look around and see if I can find a way to turn it off.

Thanks,

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Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:46 pm Post

driver49 wrote: Yes, this text was dictated using the internal MacOS voice rec function, which works surprisingly well (at least it doesn't cost the $300 I almost shelled out for Dragon Dictation).

I bought Dragon when I was still using Snow Leopard which didn't have OS dictation. I was lucky enough to find a copy of v2.5 (wifi) for £25 instead of the £200+ it used to cost new.

While the Mac OS dictation is pretty accomplished (and free, and written by the same company - Nuance - that does Dragon), the beauty of Dragon is that you can do so much more with it : for example you can move forwards and back to correct mistakes, you can go into Spelling Mode, and best of all, you can train it in words and phrases it doesn't seem to "get" at first when you say them, and teach it unusual words, names, place names, nicknames, etc.

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Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:44 pm Post

ScriverTid wrote: the beauty of Dragon is that you can do so much more with it : for example you can move forwards and back to correct mistakes, you can go into Spelling Mode, and best of all, you can train it in words and phrases it doesn't seem to "get" at first when you say them, and teach it unusual words, names, place names, nicknames, etc.


Some of that might actually be useful for the project I'm working on; I'll give Dragon some additional consideration as the work progresses. Thanks for those notes.

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