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Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:33 am
by edurbrow
I've switched back to Scrivener from Ulysses. I appreciate that Scrivener is highly customizable. I was curious whether anyone has some tips for modifying Scrivener so that its a bit less overwhelming and more easy on the eye. (I don't mean this as a criticism). I've hide the menu, ruler, and just have the binder and editor open (two panes). I've switched to a black background and green text in the Compose mode.

Does anyone have any former Ulysses-lovers have tips to make Scrivener a bit more like Ulysses's interface?

Thanks!

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:13 am
by JRP
Can't think of anything. Scrivener doesn't have an option to Hide Tab View, nor does it have a Sheets View. So you're not comparing like things. If you were, you would have the Library open in Ulysses instead of the Sheets, which is not possible. And, of course, basic UI elements are different visually in each program, e.g. the appearance of Scrivener's Inspector vs Ulysses' Attachment panes. Wish I could be of more help.

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:50 am
by Cinder6
You can also hide the header and footer views (under View->Layout) and hide the toolbar (this might be what you meant by "hide the menu").

For fullscreen, you can get the Compose window to look pretty close to Ulysses.

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:17 pm
by brett

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:05 pm
by brookter
edurbrow wrote:Does anyone have any former Ulysses-lovers have tips to make Scrivener a bit more like Ulysses's interface?

Thanks!


Have a look at the Window > Layouts > Manage Layouts dialogue. This allows you to set up your screen to a particular layout, then save and name it to get back to it quickly (you can also add a shortcut in System Preferences to make this quicker still).

So firstly set about going through the menus to get rid of everything that's non-essential: on the view menu you can hide Toolbar, Tab Bar, Binder, Inspector, and on the sub-menu Editor Layout you can hide the Header View and Footer View. Toggle the formatting bar with cmd-shift-R and the ruler with cmd-R. You're left with something like this...

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Once you've reached this state of nothingness, save it in Manage Layouts, give it a shortcut and it's available whenever you want it.

In effect, you're recreated composition mode, with a couple of exceptions: you can use it in a window, and you can slide the binder and inspector in temporarily with cmd-opt-B/cmd-opt-I. Of course the other window shortcuts (e.g. for Keyword HUD cmd-shift-K etc still work as well).

HTH.

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:56 pm
by edurbrow
Thanks for the suggestions! (If there are others interested in making Scrivener more like Ulysses, you can also set the Binder background color under Preferences.)

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:48 pm
by Cinder6
brookter wrote:Have a look at the Window > Layouts > Manage Layouts dialogue. This allows you to set up your screen to a particular layout, then save and name it to get back to it quickly (you can also add a shortcut in System Preferences to make this quicker still).

So firstly set about going through the menus to get rid of everything that's non-essential: on the view menu you can hide Toolbar, Tab Bar, Binder, Inspector, and on the sub-menu Editor Layout you can hide the Header View and Footer View. Toggle the formatting bar with cmd-shift-R and the ruler with cmd-R. You're left with something like this...

How did you get that outline around the current line?

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:55 pm
by AmberV
I have posted a Scrivener 3 theme that might be of interest to those who participated in this thread. :)

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:18 pm
by derick
Also, you can use Better Touch Tool to set up swiping to hide and show UI elements. I think that's one of the best (albeit non-visual) elements of Ulysses.

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:47 pm
by AmberV
Yeah? Different strokes! That’s actually one of the few things that drives me nuts about their window—that and how elements vanish if you resize it past a certain point. I’d rather manage what stuff is visible and don’t really see why the software should be making that choice based on something as arbitrary as window width.

I do like the idea of a gesture to hide and show extra UI elements in Scrivener though. Hmm. Maybe pinch and zoom.

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:51 pm
by JohnTWolff
AmberV wrote:Yeah? Different strokes! That’s actually one of the few things that drives me nuts about their window—that and how elements vanish if you resize it past a certain point. I’d rather manage what stuff is visible and don’t really see why the software should be making that choice based on something as arbitrary as window width.

I do like the idea of a gesture to hide and show extra UI elements in Scrivener though. Hmm. Maybe pinch and zoom.


I think this is a superb idea.

Re: Making Scrivener look more like Ulysses

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:39 am
by KB
Just to be clear, Ioa is suggesting that as something that can be done in Better Touch Tool - it’s not a gesture that will be added to Scrivener.

All the best,
Keith