Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:23 am Post
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:03 am Post
AmberV wrote:You would have to compile to get a result like that. Have a look in the Help menu, where the list of placeholder tags is documented. Meta-data like the Label are listed under “Document Variables”. These are codes that can be added to your Formatting compile option pane, for the type of document that would print these sections. The most useful way of doing that is in the “Section Layout…” button. For example you can put " (<$label>)" into the suffix field, to have it printed after the title itself (or even without a title, though in that case you might just want the label but itself). You can style the prefix/suffix fields separately, back in the Formatting mock editor:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:52 am Post
Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:25 am Post
AmberV wrote:There isn’t a chart per se, but §10.4.1, Metadata Types, in the user manual, goes over the different available types, their distinguishing characteristics and individual pros and cons.
If all I had to track were the two things you mention, and working under the presumption that all snippets only have one source but may have many topics, I’d use the label for sources and keywords for topics.
Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:32 am Post
AmberV wrote:Compile does not ever modify the contents of the binder, or their ordering. You would need to arrange things that way yourself, probably with a Collection and then compiling using that as your source (instead of Draft). I can say that sorting by keywords is a bit touch and go though, unless every item only has one keyword assigned. It gets more complicated when some have two, others have ten, etc.
AmberV wrote:As for printing the keyword as the title, the post you quoted is how you would do that—it uses labels for the example, but you could use the keyword placeholder instead.
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:18 pm Post
Ok, thanks. So…it sort of feels like I do, in fact, need to create Collections after all – that is, if I want to create an output in which I have documents organized by Keyword sections, correct?
Also, Is there a way to just Compile all of the Collections? Seems like I can only do one at a time…
Putting that aside, can you walk me through how to use the keyword placeholder with the aforementioned set up? Sorry – I might b missing something in the 2.0 set up.
Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:46 am Post
AmberV wrote:Ok, thanks. So…it sort of feels like I do, in fact, need to create Collections after all – that is, if I want to create an output in which I have documents organized by Keyword sections, correct?
Originally, I believe you were creating one collection for each and every keyword and running into issues with having so many of them. That is why I suggested that you could simply use the Keywords panel to call up a list whenever you wanted, rather than storing lists of lists.
That is different from having one big collection list organised by whatever axis you prefer—be it keywords or modification date, and then using that to compile with.
AmberV wrote:Also, Is there a way to just Compile all of the Collections? Seems like I can only do one at a time…
No, that’s why you would have one big list of items sorted by whatever you want.
AmberV wrote:Putting that aside, can you walk me through how to use the keyword placeholder with the aforementioned set up? Sorry – I might b missing something in the 2.0 set up.
It’s pretty much the same thing you did before. The only thing different from the previous setup is that you would disable the Title checkbox (I think?), and then edit the prefix/suffix to use the <$keyword> placeholder instead of the label.
One other thing of note, since you’ll be using a collection to compile, everything will be on “level 1”.
Something else to consider, if you don’t need to print any actual content and are just wanting to print metadata, is §25.4, Exporting Meta-Data to a Spreadsheet, pg. 426 in the user manual. It might be easier to do what you want in Excel, I mean to say.
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:01 am Post
I guess I’m not following that point; I don’t quite understand why it’s not possible to compile all of my Collections into one document. There’s really no way to do that?
And so, does that mean that I’m going to have to run individual Compile sessions to produce all of my keyword collection sets??
Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:11 pm Post
AmberV wrote:I guess I’m not following that point; I don’t quite understand why it’s not possible to compile all of my Collections into one document. There’s really no way to do that?
It is not a use case that has been anticipated by the way the feature is designed. The ability to compile by collection was added to make it possible to work with alternate ordering, or to create filters against the main draft. They were never meant to be used like folders, where one can just compile all of their collections one after the other.
I understand. Thanks. I'm not trying to make unreasonable demands -- I'm just trying to understand the process, and how best to accomplish what I'm aiming to do.AmberV wrote:IAnd so, does that mean that I’m going to have to run individual Compile sessions to produce all of my keyword collection sets??
That’s one way you could do it, but like I said before, I think using one larger sorted collection is going to be the most efficient approach. Does sorting by keyword in the outliner get you pretty close to what you want? If so, you can drag that sorted view into a new collection to add the items in that order. I’d do it like this:
- Use Project Search to search for “*” (which returns everything).
- Set the search settings to only look in Keywords (which changes “everything” mean only things with keywords assigned).
- Click on the “Search Results” header bar to load the search results into the main editor, and switch to Outliner mode.
- Add the Keywords column if necessary, and then click on the column header to sort by it.
Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:01 pm Post
I understand. Thanks. I’m not trying to make unreasonable demands – I’m just trying to understand the process, and how best to accomplish what I’m aiming to do.
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:16 pm Post
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:34 am Post
If not, just so I’m clear, how do I go from this set up to Compiling this? When I hit Compile, it looks like it reverts back to the raw draft.
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