Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:25 pm Post
Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:44 am Post
There is still many things Writing Outliner can do to make [Word] an all-in-one writing tool, e.g editing each heading as a standalone document and combine them when need to publish, full text search through multiple documents, showing documents as index cards on a corkboard, a true outliner (as compared to the navigation pane introduced here) for managing the documents in the writing project and managing document properties (tags, status, synopsis, hyperlinks, etc), and so on.
Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:44 am Post
JayUSA wrote:Still.. all in all.. Word 2010 is now an excellent option.
Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:00 am Post
Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:00 am Post
sumnerg wrote:An option for doing all kinds of things, it seems, and a welcome one for the many writers, some actually pretty creative, who must use the tools their employers specify.
sumnerg wrote: Scrivener and this forum are excellent. So why demean others as illiterate pirates? These writing tools aren't just for English. Even the best of us might struggle to make ourselves understood, let alone appear literate, on a Chinese forum.
Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:44 am Post
Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:30 am Post
druid wrote:All I see here is that someone at Redmond (and the illiterate Mr. Yip) have been studying Scrivener closely and looking to emulate it, but strictly within the usual bounds of corporate piracy, you understand.
Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:59 am Post
fgrieser wrote:Don't know about MS. But Yip clearly stated (on the Outliner Forum at http://www.outlinersoftware.com) that he was impressed and influenced by Scrivener when he developed his Word add-in. So "piracy" is an inappropriate term in my eyes.
Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:11 pm Post
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Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:35 am Post
sumnerg wrote:The original post on the new MS Word capabilities seemed helpful, relevant, and appropriate.
I don't know how appropriately (or not) Scrivener was acknowledged elsewhere by a plug-in developer not mentioned in the post. So I found references here to possible piracy and (English) illiteracy somewhat at odds with the generous spirit to which the "by Other Folks" forum owes its existence.
Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:45 am Post
druid wrote:JayUSA wrote:Still.. all in all.. Word 2010 is now an excellent option.
An option for what, exactly? Word will always have feature-bloat, and MSoft does not create products for writers. They serve businesses that crank out formulaic documents, all neatly packaged as templates. "Dear First Name Last Name, We regret to inform you that your payment is now 00 months past due..."
All I see here is that someone at Redmond (and the illiterate Mr. Yip) have been studying Scrivener closely and looking to emulate it, but strictly within the usual bounds of corporate piracy, you understand.
Scrivener 2.0, Nisus Writer Pro, Final Draft 8: those are excellent options for writers, amateur or pro.
Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:04 am Post
JayUSA wrote:Hi Everyone,
Just to let you know that the new Navigation Pane in Word 2010 allows very, very easy content reordering. Finally, you can move chapters and sections around easily without using that ugly and confusing "Outline View".
In this specific regard, Word 2010 is only now comparable to PageFour and WriteWay. But in other ways it is much more powerful. The key benefits of Word include: constant spelling and grammar check, integrated search (improved in this version), configurable auto-save and page numbering, advanced text formatting, the ability to save to one file (including PDF), and the ability to easily share content with others. (No more merging RTF files!)
The new Navigation Pane also allows easy "page browsing" that works alongside any of the main View modes. Essentially, this means that you can work in Draft mode (with its continuously-smooth text scrolling), while simultaneously keeping an eye on page breaks, page counts, and page layout in the Navigation Pane. So, you can avoid all that jumpy scrolling in Page View mode!!
However, Word 2010 does not include any special tabs / panes for notes associated with the main text (though there are work-arounds), any character development or story-lining tools, or any tool to scan for over-used words.
Still.. all in all.. Word 2010 is now an excellent option.
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