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Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:16 pm Post

I am new to the Scrivener community and I would like to know if there is away to forward emails into Scrivener. I am looking to replace Evernote with Scrivener as my InBox.

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Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:40 am Post

There are two places where third party programs can put files that Scrivener will see.

One is the Scratchpad, which is universally accessible to all Scrivener projects. The other is a synchronized External Folder for a specific project.

Are you an experienced Scrivener user, though? I guess Scrivener *could* be used as a universal inbox, but that wouldn't be my choice. I'd recommend being pretty familiar with the program before you decide to go that route.

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Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:00 am Post

toby_ wrote:I am new to the Scrivener community and I would like to know if there is away to forward emails into Scrivener. I am looking to replace Evernote with Scrivener as my InBox.

Ah, the Great Evernote Exodus, 2020. I'm a fellow exile and I've felt your pain. I've been a Scrivener user for... *checks her forum profile* seven and a half years now, and was an Evernote premium user for longer.

Personally, I wouldn't use Scrivener for a universal inbox. In my opinion it's not well set up for it. Scrivener is very project-oriented, and my own (former) Evernote database is vast and mostly unconnected to a project, at least as Scrivener understands them.

I see by your profile that you're both a Mac and a Windows user, so my own Evernote replacement (Bear—Mac and iOS) likely won't suit. One possible Evernote replacement that might work cross-platform in an Evernote-like manner is NimbusNote.

Whether you succeed in using Scrivener as an Evernote replacement, or find another solution, I wish you the best. If you do use Scrivener as a universal inbox, please do post in "Using Scrivener" and describe your setup. I don't believe I've run across that use case, and the rest of the forum users may be interested—I certainly would be!
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:21 am Post

Silverdragon wrote:
toby_ wrote:I am new to the Scrivener community and I would like to know if there is away to forward emails into Scrivener. I am looking to replace Evernote with Scrivener as my InBox.

Ah, the Great Evernote Exodus, 2020. I'm a fellow exile and I've felt your pain. I've been a Scrivener user for... *checks her forum profile* seven and a half years now, and was an Evernote premium user for longer.



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Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 am Post

They replaced all their client apps---Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, and web---with completely rewritten versions. At the same time. They're all buggy. They all are incredibly slow.

15 minutes is too long to wait for a plain-text note to load. If you can get it to load. I couldn't get it to download local copies. In addition, new notes go missing.

It's an [expletive deleted]. Go into the iOS App store and look at recent reviews if you're curious as to just how gross a dumpster fire it is.

I loaded my old Mac Evernote version from Time Machine, exported my notes, and held onto my premium subscription while I checked out alternatives. I settled on Bear. Once I was sure that my notes had arrived intact and Bear was working well enough, I cancelled my Evernote account. Not sorry.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:54 am Post

Someone in here suggested Notebooks, and I am running it in parallell with Evernote now, and for the things I used to use Evernote, Notebooks is a good replacement. And costs less than Bear. ;)
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:39 am Post

It looks too structured for me. I'm delighted that Bear has no notebooks. And its subscription is so much cheaper than Evernote's, too! I grant you that a one-time payment is cheaper yet, but I'm ok with my choice. (I miss Evernote's handwriting search, but it can't help me if Evernote's not working.)
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:25 pm Post

Silverdragon wrote:They replaced all their client apps---Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, and web---with completely rewritten versions. At the same time. They're all buggy. They all are incredibly slow.

15 minutes is too long to wait for a plain-text note to load. If you can get it to load. I couldn't get it to download local copies. In addition, new notes go missing.

It's an [expletive deleted]. Go into the iOS App store and look at recent reviews if you're curious as to just how gross a dumpster fire it is.

I loaded my old Mac Evernote version from Time Machine, exported my notes, and held onto my premium subscription while I checked out alternatives. I settled on Bear. Once I was sure that my notes had arrived intact and Bear was working well enough, I cancelled my Evernote account. Not sorry.



I must have lucked out, it seems to be running OK on my 2018 MBP. Then again I don't do a lot of heavy lifting with it, I just use it for Web Clipper. I have 3208 notes on it clipped from the web. I don't know if that is a lot. Rarely take notes in it, I would use Scrivener for random notes.

However, I just tried to export notes from EN but I could not figure out how to export them all only one at a time and it was exported as some type of EN file because when I double clicked on it it got imported back into EN. Hmmm. This doesn't look good. Will have to crank up Time Machine and export all my notes to a safe location or be at the mercy of EN. :evil:

That will teach me not to automatically click the update button when it pops up. :oops:

Looks like I will be spending some time on an unexpected project.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:33 pm Post

You can export all your notes in some weird format, but luckily there are apps that can import them, and recreate the same structure you have in Evernote. That's one of the reasons I chose the Notebooks app.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:36 pm Post

lunk wrote:You can export all your notes in some weird format, but luckily there are apps that can import them, and recreate the same structure you have in Evernote. That's one of the reasons I chose the Notebooks app.



How to export all my notes?
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:29 pm Post

What about Zotero as a EverNote replacement?
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:19 pm Post

Orpheus wrote:How to export all my notes?


Instructions on Evernote’s web:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/arti ... port-notes

Then I simply imported the resulting .enex file into Notebooks:

https://www.notebooksapp.com/migrate-fr ... notebooks/

Other notebook apps probably have similar options.
But this discussion should probably be moved to somewhere else in the forum, dealing with other software. :)
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:45 pm Post

lunk wrote:
Orpheus wrote:How to export all my notes?


Instructions on Evernote’s web:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/arti ... port-notes

Then I simply imported the resulting .enex file into Notebooks:

https://www.notebooksapp.com/migrate-fr ... notebooks/

Other notebook apps probably have similar options.
But this discussion should probably be moved to somewhere else in the forum, dealing with other software. :)



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Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:01 pm Post

Silverdragon wrote:
I loaded my old Mac Evernote version from Time Machine, exported my notes, and held onto my premium subscription while I checked out alternatives. I settled on Bear. Once I was sure that my notes had arrived intact and Bear was working well enough, I cancelled my Evernote account. Not sorry.


Why did you use your old version as opposed to the updated version for exporting your notes?
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:03 pm Post

Orpheus wrote:Why did you use your old version as opposed to the updated version for exporting your notes?
Because in the updated version I could only export 50 notes at a time. I have over 2000 notes for 5+ Gb. Nope, I'd rather reinstall the old version.

(By the way, this isn't the first time Evernote have pulled this stunt. They did the same thing with their iOS note-taking app, Penultimate---put up a new, completely rewritten version, buggy as Texas in August, with significant features removed. It was 6 months before it was stable, and some functions never returned. I depend on my notes DB far too much to wait that long this time.)
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