We probably agree on that more than you think.
I was using a very narrow and technical usage of the term ‘ownership’. One can debate whether rental or purchase is a better approach for themselves when it comes to where they live, without debating whether or not one can actually “own” property, to put it to a comparison.
Can my data be restored if it is otherwise terminated at the account level by an external authority or corporation for any reason at all? Nobody who stores their only copy online can say that truthfully. This is the technical argument of ownership here. Even Dropbox type services do not fall under that umbrella since they do
store local copies.
The question to me is technological in nature, because that is all we are really talking about here. Whether one sits down at a typewriter, AlphaSmart, Chromebook or $5,000 workstation, they can get some writing done. Note every one of those doesn’t need an Internet connection to function. We aren’t discussing whether this or that is better for writing—that is obviously a very personal choice. All we are talking about is the technology: and I choose “dumb” devices that cost $80 used, for walking around, and I choose Macs for home. It’s a good combination for me---simple and fearless on the go, optimum power (to the point of writing my own ChromeOS if I really felt ambitious about it) at home---and if my power goes out I don’t need to wait to do any work. The hardware you use to connect (or not connect) is irrelevant here.
So back to that argument, I don’t understand
the appeal of an online Scrivener. It would be just like all of these other writing sites. Some of them certainly do look interesting, I don't mean to denigrate the work that goes into them, but I would personally never consider investing huge quantities of my creative output to a system that could shut down tomorrow, or close my account, or just even simply be "offline" for hours to weeks following some natural or political event.
So again, specifically to druid, we're in the same camp here.
I prefer a simple and stripped down piece of equipment for writing on out of the house. You prefer this thing, I prefer that, but we're both going for the same thing, that was my point. I don't see what that
has to do with the novlr.com discussion though.