Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:31 pm Post
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Sean Coffee wrote:(can Scrivener do line numbers? I'll have to check.)
I like the second column as a concept, especially that each synopsis is just the first few lines of text in the corresponding document Didn't someone just request this feature, Keith? I bet that guy was a plant.
I'm too accustomed to Scrivener's massive (if, cough, a little unorganized)
It's about time someone stepped up and made a piece of writing software that is at least in Scrivener's ballpark, and I like the prospect of two competing developers learning from one another.
Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:05 pm Post
KB wrote:I think Ulysses III is so different from Scrivener in its entire philosophy and approach (markup vs rich text, single-window vs project-based etc) that they can happily sit side by side without competing too much. Many users are going to fall one way or the other, and some users will use both for different types of writing. However, it's only natural that, when I see another best-in-class writing app come out with a new release, I take note. What I find exciting about Ulysses III - and what I really, really respect Max, Marcus and the rest of the team for - is how they have completely started over. I did that to a huge extent with Scriv 1, discarding Scriv Gold, then to a lesser extent with Scriv 2, which changed a *lot*. But these guys have completely rewritten what Ulysses is - how it looks and behaves - while maintaining their fundamental, underlying philosophy of what they want from writing software.
Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:06 pm Post
KB wrote:Sean Coffee wrote:(can Scrivener do line numbers? I'll have to check.)
It can (not in page layout mode, but in the regular editor): Format > Options.
Yeah, I've been pondering on using the first few lines of document text as a placeholder in index cards and outline rows for documents that don't have a synopsis, probably a light grey to indicate that it's placeholder text. I know that this will confuse a number of users, though, so it's a tough call. What I might do is offer it as an option that's turned off by default.
...how the hell do you organise that many preferences? There are already ten - ten! - preference panes. The options (and we are thinking about this, as the preferences are a bugbear for many, so your feedback is welcome) are:
1. Have more preference panes and either:
a) have the icons in the top scroll horizontally, like Xcode used to. (But even Xcode dropped that.)
b) have a vertical source list of panes along the left and get rid of the icons in the top, or reduce their size (like Scrivener's Compile pane).
2. A mixture of 1a and 1b - fewer panes, but with source lists down the left of any panes that require lots of options. E.g:
3. Strip out lots of the more obscure preferences and place them in expanded "Advanced..." panes somehow.
My first reaction was: dammit, I wish I could just drop support for anything earlier than 10.7, strip out a bunch of code, and get rid of every feature and and preference I don't use myself. If I did that, I could really simplify the preferences and menus...
I also wish there was a way we could just hide all the scriptwriting features for users who don't need them.
Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:28 pm Post
Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:43 pm Post
Fleet Admiral Blount wrote:But it has made me take a fresh look at Scrivener, at the parts of it that we could improve to make things easier for users without taking away from what it can do. For instance, I'm going through the menus and thinking, "Huh, do we really need Project Statistics and Text Statistics? Shouldn't they be the same feature?" And: "Meta-Data Settings, Text Preferences, Auto-Complete List, the Project's Template Folder, Composition Backdrop... Aren't these all just Project Settings? Do we really need a billion different windows and menu items for all that stuff? Shouldn't that all be part of the same, easily-discoverable window, like this:"
Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:59 pm Post
What you need is an overarching spaceship themed metaphor
Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:58 pm Post
michaelbywater wrote:As the guy said on the radio when they asked if he was worried that his movie was coming out same week as another big CG/animation film: "You don't understand Hollywood. In order for my movie to succeed, it is not necessary that his movie fail."
Tripper wrote:For a novelist and and screenwriter (and now starting my first play in Scrivener) it is a life-saver.
Sean Coffee wrote:I can now see that you were totally right
Which is why "Apearance" is so confusing. It's couched as a behavior, but it really applies to sections of Scrivener. Isn't the font you're writing with part of the appearance of Scrivener? I feel like if you go with either Scrivener-wide behaviors, or specific sections, but not both.
Yeah, I agree with that evaluation. Or look at "Separate scrivenings with single line breaks", which is really an "Appearance" thing but is in "Formatting". To be honest, there have been a lot of exclamations along the lines of, "Oh crap, I can't make the 'Appearance' pane any bigger, where the hell can I put this?" Because there are very few options in the Preferences, as numerous as they are, that I would really like to remove, because I know of users using every single one, and every one has been debated. Some of the corrections ones could come out, tough (for instance, "Spell-checking in new projects" could be erased and it could take the preference from the last setting used, which is how Scapple works).I agree, and I'm a user who needs them. Is it not possible just to create a Screenwriting mode?
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