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Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:15 pm Post

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Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:21 pm Post

I use the Mini for writing with the Apple keyboard. Both fit neatly into my old Newton MessagePad case. Works great, and very portable. If I don't have the BT keys with me, the portrait keyboard is good for thumbs, and the landscape works well for touch typing. :D

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Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:25 pm Post

Hi Kevin, I am using my iPad exclusively to write my novel.


Each to their own, John :) - I could think of nothing worse than trying to tap out a novel on that keyboard, but then I touch-type at over 80 wpm, something that is impossible on such a device.
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Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:40 pm Post

I don't have any experience with the regular sized iPad, but I am starting to get the hang of thumb typing in landscape mode on the Mini. I have short fingers, but wide hands, so touch-typing on the on-screen keyboard is kind of out of the question.

The screen is clear enough so reading the text is no problem. Again, without experience of a Retina display, I don't know how it compares. I'm very satisfied with the Mini as a device, but I'm not as thrilled with the writing apps available. So am REALLY looking forward to Scrivener for iPad. (So glad I happened into this thread so I could get that early tease from Keith! Chops are being licked!)

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Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:59 am Post

jimbojellybone wrote:I'm really looking forward to Scrivener for iPad and really, really hoping it will have cursor navigation keys. Please, oh please say it will.


See Keith's comment here.
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:48 am Post

KB wrote:The screen is fine for running Scrivener:

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Wahh? Did I miss an announcement? Or is this just a mock up?

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Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:59 pm Post

Gordon Robb wrote:Wahh? Did I miss an announcement? Or is this just a mock up?


I would imagine it's just an Alpha release...
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:34 pm Post

mbbntu wrote:
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Incredible!


It is incredible. I am sincerely humiliated. I guess I'm still near the bottom of my climb. :oops:

John.

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Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:06 pm Post

KB wrote:Each to their own, John :) - I could think of nothing worse than trying to tap out a novel on that keyboard, but then I touch-type at over 80 wpm, something that is impossible on such a device.


Hi Keith,
Sincere apologies for getting your name wrong. Don't know how I did that, given your obvious prompt. When writing a reply, you are listed as KB at the top. Maybe since that OTHER name is the last thing in your post, in my haste I just blew it.

I should have been clearer in the intent of my post. You are entirely correct in that touch typing, especially at the speed you type, is probably impossible with the on screen KB. I was trying to point out that the statement you quoted:

"...As AKNicolle says, though, all iPads are only really any good for short notes (unless you plug in an external keyboard..." (emphasis mine)

...Is not true for those of us who don't touch-type. Full-size iPads can be, in practice, quite good for typing long documents.

Regards, John

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Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:00 pm Post

No problem on getting the name wrong - it happens all the time. :) (It doesn't help that my brother is called Kevin - my parents were cruel.)

jimbojellybone wrote:...Is not true for those of us who don't touch-type.


Don't... touch... type... Does not compute!

Gordon Robb wrote:Wahh? Did I miss an announcement? Or is this just a mock up?


That's an internal alpha, with the split screen set up to 1/3 + 2/3, the outliner loaded on the left and set to affect other editor, and a web page loaded in the right. It's the tutorial project loaded in our iPad app, basically. There's a reason it shows a web page, though - the rich text editor is still in serious development. :)

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Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:46 pm Post

Daverius wrote:If I don't have the BT keys with me, the portrait keyboard is good for thumbs, and the landscape works well for touch typing. :D

I doubt that any non-tactile keyboard works very well for touch typing. If you aren't looking at the keyboard, your fingers will wander, especially since you can't rest them on the 'keys'.
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:15 pm Post

KB wrote:
jimbojellybone wrote:...Is not true for those of us who don't touch-type.


Don't... touch... type... Does not compute!

I was taught to touch-type by putting a blinder in front of the paper in the platen of my typewriter. I always assumed that touch typing meant you didn't get any feedback as to the accuracy of your typing other than feeling the keys and hearing the 'clack' of the letters being imprinted onto the paper. I doubt very seriously that I could accurately type anything without seeing the words appear on the screen as I entered them.

I wonder if my teacher would count my method, with many visits to the backspace key, as 'touch typing'.
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:20 pm Post

robertdguthrie wrote:I doubt that any non-tactile keyboard works very well for touch typing. If you aren't looking at the keyboard, your fingers will wander, especially since you can't rest them on the 'keys'.

I've spent too little time touch-typing on the iPad, but I would say that I find it feasible. You just look at your fingers at the end of a sentence (not a long travel from the text you are typing), and this seems enough to "recalibrate" your hands.

I've just received my iPad mini, and I discovered that typing on that one could eventually be possible (by using just four fingers per hand, and a sparse use of the small finger). It is a bit like typing on a netbook. Typing on the big iPad is a much more pleasant, and productive, experience.

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Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:55 pm Post

I am not a world-class typist by any stretch of the imagination and I found touch-typing on a full iPad to be a reasonable exercise. Spent a whole week in training last week doing it with very few problems.
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:30 pm Post

My main problem with it (and granted laptops are not a huge improvement, but they are) is that you have to be staring down roughly at your fingertips the entire time. There is no suitable compromise between a comfortable reading level for your neck and spine, and a comfortable typing level for your arms and wrists. Short bursts are okay, but anything more than that is just asking for strained joints and potential health problems in the long run.

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