Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:19 pm Post
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polymathic wrote:Namely, that this debate--often heated in academic environment--is both a distraction from the more important matters, and a irrelevant to to those outside of the ivory tower those who post on this site live in (Mac-owners, academics, writers, developers, and users or Scrivener)....
In the end, I have the uneasy feeling that this debate is a substitute for meaningful action.
Sorry for the length of the post.....
Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:53 pm Post
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polymathic wrote:I don't believe this is exclusively an academic issue, but it is constrained to a narrow, privileged segment of the world population.
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Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:35 pm Post
Timotheus wrote:Yes, it's true: male (and not "primarily male" but "exclusively male"!) academics wrote the grammar books making "he" the default pronoun. But they did so in a world in which female academics simply didn't exist; in which the literary production in the function of which these grammars were written talked about things (politics, philosophy and so on) with which women had absolutely nothing to do; in which it was even difficult to find a woman who could read and write. So if they had made a different choice (supposing such a thing could have come to their mind!), they would have made themselves absolutely ridiculous.
And does it no longer seem strange to use "she" when the person referenced could be either? Well, I politely disagree. Try to use a similar "she" at the market place, on the soccer pitch, at the beach: firstly people simply won't understand you; and as soon as they will have understood, the mocking and sneering will begin. And did you ever hear a male person use a similar "she"?
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Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:25 pm Post
polymathic wrote:alexwein, I don't believe this is exclusively an academic issue, but it is constrained to a narrow, privileged segment of the world population. Whether your family was keenly aware of this gender issue doesn't mean this is widespread. Clearly, your family was politically engaged. That too has become a minority of the population; political apathy is the norm once we leave privilege, in USA especially. A tiny percentage of the poorest American even vote.
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