Launchbar and an urgent request.

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Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:43 am Post

MacUpdate has a promo of Launchbar at 50% off, if anyone is interested ... I have less than 46 hours in which to take it up if I want to.

However, could any of you Launchbar aficionados (Ioa ? :) ) answer a question quickly. The blurb that comes from MU says that the hot-key to launch Launchbar is Command-Space. Is it possible to change that within the app, as Command-Space is the hot-key for switching keyboards, and for me, switching between English and Chinese keyboards is a frequent requirement, something I've been doing for about 20 years and there's no way I want to change that.

So hot-key assignment is make-or-break for me, and I need to know within the next 45 hours. I don't want to buy the app and find it buggers up my keyboard switching.

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Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:41 am Post

I use Command + \
I've used it since 2002, but did not upgrade to version 5. I would think that it has the same option to choose a different hotkey to invoke it.
In version 4 I don't think I could create any combination I wanted, but LaunchBar included some options and I picked one.

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Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:51 am Post

Mark you can freely choose your hotkey to invoke Launchbar, I use version 5 and am very happy with it, keep finding out new things I can do with it. It has a clipboard history, each item of which it can display using quicklook, very handy if you copied a bunch of pictures and need to find the right one to paste into an email. One of the few so-called productivity apps that is actually worth it IMO.

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Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:28 am Post

I've used Quicksilver for many years (except for a short period when it seemed to stop working, and I used Google's QuickSearch), but I decided that at about £11 GBP it was worth buying Launchbar. As Ioa said on another thread, Quicksilver completely changed the way I worked with the computer, but it was beginning to look a bit old, and I gather the original developer recommends moving to Launchbar or some equivalent software. Too soon for me to make a proper comparison, but first impressions are OK, with the exception of the font size being too small (it seems that various people have complained about this on their forums). I wear varifocal lenses, so I have to tip my head back to read Launchbar, something I didn't have to do with Quicksilver. You can't win them all.

What did you decide, Mark?

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Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:43 pm Post

I bought! I have had Quicksilver for a while, but have never really got into it. And yes, first impressions of Launchbar are OK. I set the main Launchbar shortcut to Cmd-\ so it leaves my keyboard switching alone, but I've actually set double-tap on <Function> to open Launchbar Search, which does the same thing ... at least in terms of the simple use I'm making of it now. I do have to remember to use it though ... calling up the apps I use from my minimalist dock and its "Applications" folder for those I don't access all the time has become such a habit!

I don't have a problem with the font size, though, even on my MBA and with my 65 year-old eyes ... though I only wear specs for distance, particularly when out and about.

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Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:37 pm Post

mbbntu wrote:Too soon for me to make a proper comparison, but first impressions are OK, with the exception of the font size being too small (it seems that various people have complained about this on their forums). I wear varifocal lenses, so I have to tip my head back to read Launchbar, something I didn't have to do with Quicksilver. You can't win them all.


Martin,

Maybe you've rejected this -- but you can drag Launchbar to anywhere on the screen, escape it and when recalled it will re-appear in the same spot. For varifocals, perhaps more of a Launchdoorstep ...

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Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:20 pm Post

Hugh wrote:perhaps more of a Launchdoorstep


Hugh -- Actually, I hadn't thought of putting it right at the bottom of the screen. I wonder how that would work. Normally the lists drop down below the main bar. Do they go upwards instead? That would feel a bit strange. I'll have to try it. One can get used to most things. But probably the middle of the screen would be best. Aaahh ... the problem of having a choice. But thanks for the idea.

Mark, I'm one of those who like to keep their hands on the keys, so I found Quicksilver a godsend. I'm also not as organised as I ought to be, so the ability to find my scattered material from inside Quicksilver was very useful. Once you adapt to the way of working, it's very satisfying. Best of luck with it!

Martin.

Edit: Yes, the lists do open upwards. Intriguing. Experimentation clearly called for.
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:30 pm Post

Although I remain a fan of Launchbar (following Ioa's original recommendation shortly after I moved to the Mac and Scrivener) which I think is still leader of the pack, the upstart Alfred (Powerpack edition) continues to pile on the features. It has released an update today.

And varifocals should have no problem with it.
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:48 pm Post

Hugh wrote:And varifocals should have no problem with it.


But unfortunately my computer would -- I don't have an Intel chip. (Although I see there is an unsupported PPC version, but I assume this is not getting all the feature upgrades.)

However, I'm beginning to get used to Launchbar -- and it may help me to cultivate a superior look :mrgreen: (unless I do decide to shift it down the screen a little).

Thanks for the info,
Martin.
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:09 pm Post

Yes, I took the plunge with Launchbar as well.

Old, slow, and confused, but at least I’m inconsistent... :mrgreen:

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Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:30 pm Post

Thanks for the heads-up. I started using Quicksilver shortly after coming to the Mac in late '07 but it's looking a bit ignored by the developer(s) these days. It's getting more unstable, too. I bought LaunchBar before the sale ended so at least now I've got an App that's actively developed. So far, it's slicker than a KFC drainpipe.
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:28 pm Post

nib wrote:So far, it's slicker than a KFC drainpipe.


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Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:50 pm Post

I'm late to the party. One thing I do like on the double-tap Fn/Ctrl thing is having that set up to "Instant send" instead of an alternate search. This is slightly different in that it macros a two actions you'd have to take otherwise. It does the following:

1. Grabs the current selection in the active application, which is equivalent to tapping Cmd-G with the LB interface already up
2. Invokes target mode on the grabbed item(s), which is indicated by the orange arrow, equivalent to tapping Tab after making a selection

Target mode is like saying "Do what I select with this item", and opens up a whole bunch of secondary things, and will be quite familiar to QuickSilver users since that Tab method is more predominant. For example you can select some text in a program, that will send the text as a snippet to LaunchBar, and from there you can access all of your Services and zip the text off where it needs to go. It reduces the need for global shortcuts (which always seem to conflict with something somewhere) in services. Or select 5 files and move them to another folder, or zip them in an archive, or send them to an FTP server.
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Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:20 am Post

AmberV wrote:double-tap Fn/Ctrl

There seems to be a bug here -- it doesn't work for me at all, and there are various posts on their forum going back to last May saying that it only works intermittently, or not at all. Shame, as it would be handy.

Cheers, Martin.
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Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:55 pm Post

So far, double-tap on Function has worked perfectly for me. I'll have to read Ioa's post carefully and think about what he says. For the moment, I'm still teaching myself to use LaunchBar to launch apps, rather than going automatically for the dock.

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