A declining taste in movies??

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:32 am Post

I’ve noticed that my taste in movies has deteriorated over the years, and I wonder if this is happening to anyone else?

I used to make a point of seeing good, mature, thoughtful films, often European, films that addressed so called important issues. For example, some years ago we drove into Beverly Hills to see “The Europeans.â€
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:15 pm Post

I watch films all the time but rarely in a public theatre. If you do that, you are reduced to viewing what the distributors are pushing and paying inflated prices to cover their marketing. A better way to go is to rent from mail order houses (like Netflix) or borrow from public libraries, which now have big collections of tapes and discs. Several sites on the Web (like secondspin.com) sell used discs at bargain prices.

Some of the excellent recent films I've seen this way include small independent pictures and documentaries. I recommend Iraq in Fragments, Maxed Out, An Inconvenient Truth, Who Killed the Electric Car?, When the Levees Broke, Shut Up and Sing, Jesus Camp, 49 Up, and Fast Food Nation. For fictional narrative, the best new film I've seen is Pan's Labyrinth. Other good pictures were The Painted Veil, Dreamgirls, Little Children, The History Boys, Copying Beethoven, The Prestige, The Illusionist, The Queen, Hollywoodland, and The New World.

Also available is a large library of classics from directors like Capra, Ford, Houston, Hitchcock, Dassin, the Archers, and much of the inventory of BBC or TCM, who sell films from their Web sites. While I have fond memories of "going to the movies," today I prefer the convenience of viewing at home and even taking notes, since films have become another kind of reading.

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:30 pm Post

I've always enjoyed M. Night Shyamalan's movies. They tend to be very quiet (except at certain key moments, of course!) and you have to pay close attention to them - they're very thought-provoking for me, a refreshing departure from the 'make-it-loud-enough-and-maybe-they'll-pay-attention' movies that are so common.
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:57 pm Post

Arashi,

It's possible your taste is actually getting better. =-) Congratulations on shedding that most insidious of afflictions, film snobbery, and fully embracing an art form for all it has to offer. I think it's wonderful that you're the kind of person who can enjoy both a James adaptation and a Michael Bay picture, each on its own terms.

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:47 pm Post

Sean Coffee wrote:Congratulations on shedding that most insidious of afflictions, film snobbery, and fully embracing an art form for all it has to offer.


Film snobbery?? That sounds horrible!! I'm glad I don't have that anymore. Thank you!!

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:57 pm Post

Lol. :) You know, before I even read your full post, I was going to say, "Whist I still love the films of Hal Hartley, right now I'm desperate to see Transformers..." and then you mentioned Transformers too. :)

Still, you know one of the Transformers story writers praised Scrivener on his blog? That makes me very happy.

And what's wrong with wanting to see the Autobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons on the big screen anyway? Let's face it, the new Bumblebee looks great... Oh no, I really am a geek. Help, please help.

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:58 pm Post

KB wrote:Still, you know one of the Transformers story writers praised Scrivener on his blog? That makes me very happy.


"Draft the next blockbuster" - you were right! :D

Other than that, I'd chime in. That's not "declining taste". That's "developing taste".

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KB wrote:Still, you know one of the Transformers story writers praised Scrivener on his blog? That makes me very happy.


I did not know. Bravo. I salute him as well.

KB wrote:And what's wrong with wanting to see the Autobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons on the big screen anyway? Let's face it, the new Bumblebee looks great... Oh no, I really am a geek. Help, please help.


Well, I know nothing about Transformers beyond what I have read in Wikipedia. I missed the cartoon and toys growing up. I can't explain why I'm so stoked over this extravaganza. With Sin City, at least I read the graphic novels before seeing the movie and knew what to expect. Went to the midnight opening with two guys and a girl from the office. What a blast.

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Typo wrote:Other than that, I'd chime in. That's not "declining taste". That's "developing taste".


Excellent! Thank you!

I assume, then, that I will continue to show developing taste by going to see DOA (Dead or Alive), an entirely plausible saga of three bikini clad female martial artists who apparently overcome great odds to save the world!!??

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Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:26 pm Post

Oh, I rented DOA recently and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was bad, but in a good way. :)

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Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:42 pm Post

KB wrote:Oh, I rented DOA recently and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was bad, but in a good way. :)


Sweet!…You've already seen the DVD?? DOA is opening in theaters here in USA on June 15. How totally lame! The rest of the world is so far ahead of us…sometimes.

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Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:00 pm Post

I saw DOA today, first day out in USA. I went to the first showing of the day—only one other customer, sitting halfway down, center seat.

I enjoyed DOA, despite bad lines and bad moments. I love martial arts, even when the director must cleverly compensate for actors who are not skilled. I had fun watching the attractive girls fly among the bamboo and vault up scaffolding 20-stories high. Except for Devon Aoki, who I saw in Sin City, I didn’t know any of the actresses, or the actors either. Didn’t matter.

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Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:42 pm Post

Actually, I'm as fussy about my action movies as I am about my artistic movies.

They each have the same goal. Yet, I find a good action movie harder to find than an artistic one. The artistic one has the room and leisure to let characterization stretch out, postpone dramatic revelations, and slowly ramp up the narrative drive.

On the other hand, the action movie has no such indulgence from its audience. It has to start fast, squeeze in characterization while hanging from a train or falling off a cliff, and cannot afford anything leisurely, at all.

So, as a geek and a genre fan, I appreciate a good action movie more than I do an artistic movie, all else being equal. (Really really good artistic movies are like really really good artistic books; so rare I don't get my hopes up.)

Genre movies, on the other hand, just have to be Good Enough to accomplish their goal. Geniuses are not required. Love of the material, and the skill to make it happen... that's what works.

I'm hoping we will see a real action movie revival sometime soon. I hear Transformers is a real kick, and one of the screenwriters for that piece runs a blog I like very much.

http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com

And that's where I learned about Scrivener.

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werebear wrote:I'm hoping we will see a real action movie revival sometime soon. I hear Transformers is a real kick, and one of the screenwriters for that piece runs a blog I like very much.

I enjoyed “Transformers,â€
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:45 am Post

Personally, I like a mixture of art and junk (but good junk, as someone said earlier - blockbusters need to have a bit of quality in something other than the CGI).

For example, I'm happy watching Begman's five-hour epic, FANNY AND ALEXANDER (in Swedish, with English subtitles). And equally happy watching THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy. I loved SAW almost as much as GUYS AND DOLLS and MANHATTAN.

Books are the same for me: Dickens is on my bookshelf alongside Stephen King and THE WATCHMEN graphic novel. Poetry by John Donne next next to the SPECTRUM BOOK OF FANTASY ART.

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