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Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:22 pm Post

AmberV wrote:On Star Wars, I came across an interesting watch order that someone recommended that makes the prequels much more palatable (at least from a presentation of overall plot). The idea is to scrap Lucas' misguided notion that Anakin is the central character and return it to the original notion that Luke is the central character. Watching them in a linear sequence makes a big long and frankly stupid story about Anakin.

First priority: find the original cuts of episodes IV--VI. This is getting increasingly difficult to do. There are "Despecialized Editions" floating around.

As for the rest, read this if you have several hours.

I'd try it myself if I didn't throw all of my Star Wars movies away in a fit of pique some years ago.


One of my "hobbies" if I get a chance is marathon running. Not the silly exercise kind, but watching movies from a series back-to-back (*). As you can imagine, this is something I've been able to do less of since leaving college, but every now and then I throw something in there.
As such I have long contemplated my preferred order for watching the StarWars films. I ultimately settled on : Original series 4, 5, 6; prequals 1, 2, 3; remastered 4, 5, 6.
Yup, it means you have to watch 9 movies instead of 6, but you get to do both main choices of order (456123 and 123456) in 75% of the time.

However, having read this link, "Machete" order makes perfect sense. I was also really worried about the fact that the original trilogy weren't being released on bluray in their unf*cked form, and this dude seems to have my back on that one too! I have deliberately not watched anything starwars related in 7 years to 'clean' my mind to give myself the maximum opportunity for wow. It might be time.


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Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:30 pm Post

KB wrote:pigfender: Maybe I'm just overly precious...


I doubt it. And even if you are, you'll only be compensating for the similar 'rose tinted' glasses that I clearly wear for the original. I mean, how can ANY movie really compete with the impact of seeing that chestburster scene in Alien for the first time ever?

KB wrote:Mark Kermode, whose opinion I usually respect, rated it 7.5 out of 10.


I met Mark once. I was at the afterparty for the "premiere" of Shawshank Redemption (when it was re-released 10 years later) and Mark was talking to Frank Darabont about tinkering with movies post release. Both laid heavily into George Lucas for his re-imagining of the StarWars movies, saying that once a movie is out there it belongs to the fans, not the director.

Didn't stop Frank messing with a single 5 second scene in Shawshank though, of course.
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:44 pm Post

Foxtrot wrote:I have every intention of watching Prometheus but this subject topic has made me realise that I am just really shallow because I will enjoy it regardless, simply because Noomi Rapace is in it :)


I must watch her in The Girl with a Dragon Tattoo, seeing as everyone raves about her, and there is not much worth raving about in her performance in this, I'm sad to say. That may in large part be down to her being forced to act an English scientist, though, for no good reason whatsoever. (In flashbacks to her childhood, they get an American actor to play her English father - couldn't they have got him to do Swedish, instead?) She is also saddled with a truly awful, role, too, in which her entire characterisation comes down to her crucifix necklace.

Okay, I really am going to stop bitching now. I'm actually making it worse than it sounds - it is, in many ways, hugely enjoyable. If it had nothing to do with Scott or Alien I'd probably give it three stars, even. Look at it like this: I'm doing you all a favour. When you go to see it with lowered expectations, it will seem waaaaay better than I've described it. :)

Wait, you weren't talking about her acting skills, were you...?
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:07 am Post

I've just come back to this thread after reading the linked blog on watching Star Wars in machete order. A very happy diversion and I'm looking forward to watching Star Wars in that order. My father has also asked me about the best order for watching the series, now I can make an informed (although still equally opinionated) response.

As for dodgy sequels, can no-one else remember Highlander 2? I still cry at the memory…
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:16 am Post

I like Machete's order. I'll have to try that sometime. Still, when fans have to tinker with the order of the series, it speaks volumes about how much Lucas f'd it up with the prequels.

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:18 am Post

...Mark was talking to Frank Darabont about tinkering with movies post release. Both laid heavily into George Lucas for his re-imagining of the StarWars movies, saying that once a movie is out there it belongs to the fans, not the director.


I seem to recall someone else stating an indictment toward that practice as well. Ah yes:

"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society." ---George Lucas, 1988
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:37 pm Post

nom wrote:As for dodgy sequels, can no-one else remember Highlander 2? I still cry at the memory…

There can be only one Highlander movie!
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:54 pm Post

IT is pretty bad when Porn has the same level of acting and writing as a "blockbuster".
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vic-k wrote:
Wock wrote:Friday the 13th Jaysen in out space.
Well ...why not? :?

I thought I was already there?
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:56 pm Post

pigfender wrote:(*) I am waiting for my girlfriend to go on holiday without me at some point so I can complete the ultimate: Bond

We're supposed to believe that?
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:18 pm Post

Ssshh! Maybe PF has the appropriate number of Bond-girls lined up.
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:14 pm Post

KB wrote:Wait, you weren't talking about her acting skills, were you...?


I think maybe the lesbian love scene in Dragon Tattoo has impacted on my critical analysis of her acting skills. :oops:
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:56 pm Post

Jaysen wrote:
pigfender wrote:(*) I am waiting for my girlfriend to go on holiday without me at some point so I can complete the ultimate: Bond

We're supposed to believe that?


Yeah, I know it amazes me too! Mrs Pigfender, like, hangs around and spends her time with me by choice!
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:37 pm Post

pigfender wrote:Yeah, I know it amazes me too! Mrs Pigfender, like, hangs around and spends her time with me by choice!


I think she must really love you to take on a last name like that.

BTW: I love what you've done with your website. http://www.pigfender.com/

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:51 pm Post

Sin wrote:
pigfender wrote:Yeah, I know it amazes me too! Mrs Pigfender, like, hangs around and spends her time with me by choice!


I think she must really love you to take on a last name like that.

BTW: I love what you've done with your website. http://www.pigfender.com/

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